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Old 27-08-2014, 01:54 PM
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I thought I'd join the club and start a thread on my build. I've built a couple of race cars in the past, with help from friends, but this is the first time I've tackled something like this from completely scratch. I'm not a mechanic or anything, so my knowledge is limited. I basically learn everything I do by swimming hard and learning from friends and my old man who used to race FJ's and Torana's at Speedway back in the day.

Plans for the car are keeping it as a big block. I purchased a 502 a couple of years ago when I thought I was doing a straight engine swap, but as I pulled things off the car... well I'm sure you all know how it goes. The suspension will be all Speedtech. The transmission will probably be a T56, because I miss driving a manual and I'm planning to do a bit of track/autocross stuff in it. I have an engineer on board too because I want to keep it as legal as possible. I guess I'm going down the Pro touring track, if you'd put a name to it, but I hate fashionable terminology, so I'm just gonna build it how I want. A car that goes, stops and goes around corners, a bit old school and a bit new.

I'm in for the long haul.

here's some pics...

What started as a decent looking car from a distance.





Had a few issues close up. The body was never really perfectly straight.



I decided then to have a closer look at the body and found lots of holes.







Out with the old



Ready for the new



Notice the plates under the frame mounts. I imagine it's because it had the wrong Transmission crossmember in the car





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It's about now I've realised that I need to pull the whole thing down and start again. The car had been built previously in a hurry. It has been in Aus for a while before I've owned it for the last 7 odd years and before that it was apparently a rental car?? Even more reason to rebuild it.







Bought a rotisserie off of Ebay at a decent price. Man, so much easier when you can spin the car around.



In the meantime, Jay from Speedtech built this massive box for me and filled it full of good ****. I tried to get as much at once to keep the shipping cost down.



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Time to strip the paint...





What a nightmare. This is what it's all about though I suppose. Check out the holes. I'm guessing they couldn't get the bog to stick.





The only decent panel was the roof and bonnet. The rest were rippled, rooted and full of holes in the usual spots. My panel beater is pretty good though. He's old school. He can fix anything apparently. (I hope)

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Floors are going in and holes are being welded up. While I'm at it, I'll replace the boot floor, add mini tubs and put subframe connectors in it



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In the meantime, the megabox has arrived.





PORN!





12.19" rotors and 4 piston callipers. 6 piston callipers can be bolted straight on if I want to do that, but 6 pistons have no dust boots. Engineer can't pass that.



Better than Ikea..



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In the time it's taken to do this, (around 2 years) I've moved house, had a first baby, gone half blind, and tried to keep working. The engineer has been cool with everything and now the bits are here, we can get stuck into it. Mini tubs are goin in now and then the body work will continue. Can't wait for the day to start the engine.
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Old 27-08-2014, 02:03 PM
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I can see this will be another inspiration build, well done Justin, love the big box of goodies too!!
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Old 27-08-2014, 02:37 PM
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Gonna be a nice build, and gotta love all those goody boxes, at least it looks like you have some room to spread it all out. And Jay at speedtech is the man, awesome customer service with those guys. Will be watching this one.
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Old 27-08-2014, 03:03 PM
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Great car.. Can't wait to see the progress on this one..

I know your pain with your comment:
"12.19" rotors and 4 piston callipers. 6 piston callipers can be bolted straight on if I want to do that, but 6 pistons have no dust boots. Engineer can't pass that."

I had ordered the 6 piston Wilwood set for the Challenger before I found that out.. Ended up going with a Baer set up in the end, their 6 piston callipers do have the magical mystical boots.. That in my mind you don't really need.. But that's another argument as to the logic behind certain ADR's
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Old 27-08-2014, 03:25 PM
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Thanks guys. Adam, you're right about Jay. Speedtech have been amazingly helpful and pointed me in the right direction whenever I was uncertain. It made me spend more, so good for them! He also boxed stuff from Ricks and March and sent it all together. Customs, of course, stuffed everything up with delaying everything. It's amazing how you can deal with someone on the other side of the world and it's fine until it gets to Aus.

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Great car.. Can't wait to see the progress on this one..

I know your pain with your comment:
"12.19" rotors and 4 piston callipers. 6 piston callipers can be bolted straight on if I want to do that, but 6 pistons have no dust boots. Engineer can't pass that."

I had ordered the 6 piston Wilwood set for the Challenger before I found that out.. Ended up going with a Baer set up in the end, their 6 piston callipers do have the magical mystical boots.. That in my mind you don't really need.. But that's another argument as to the logic behind certain ADR's
Exactly mate. The whole tyre size thing is ridiculous. Who can put a 9 litre engine in, but you can't put too much contact onto the road with anything over 1.3 times the size of original. Dumb as.
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Old 27-08-2014, 06:08 PM
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Great project Justin, at least you enjoyed it for several years before the upgrades started. Your parts parts list is sweet too - Jay is more than accommodating and an Aussie too boot, I’ve bought my fair share from him ( now have atleast Ĺ dozen speedtech t-shirts . How is the panel work going any progress? The body didn’t seem too bad, have seen a lot worse under so called fresh restos. Keep the updates coming !
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Old 27-08-2014, 06:11 PM
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Good to see you are still progressing along nicely, will all be worth it in the end and there wont be any hidden surprises.
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Old 27-08-2014, 06:25 PM
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Great start,...this is going to be a nice car...
I wanna see more of this build, why 3 link n not 4 bar rear ??
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Old 27-08-2014, 06:26 PM
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Justin im liking your build already.....and your not doing things by half measures.......kept up the good work.....the only panel on my car thats original is the roof to.....and i should of changed that to
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Old 27-08-2014, 08:32 PM
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Great project Justin, at least you enjoyed it for several years before the upgrades started. Your parts parts list is sweet too - Jay is more than accommodating and an Aussie too boot, Iíve bought my fair share from him ( now have atleast Ĺ dozen speedtech t-shirts . How is the panel work going any progress? The body didnít seem too bad, have seen a lot worse under so called fresh restos. Keep the updates coming !
Thanks mate. I spend half an hour looking at your build today. Loved how you did the rear frames. i was thinking the same thing, but I have a crossmember that will sit in that position, so strengthening it shouldn't be a problem.

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Great start,...this is going to be a nice dwr...
I wanna see more of this build, why 3 link n not 4 bar rear ??
Keep on posting.
Alan I just really like the design and the fact it was a relatively easy install, plus the fact it was a great proven setup, Oh and the fact that you can fit a 3 inch exhaust with no real dramas. I think Speedtech have really done there homework too. After getting it I realised it's a piece of art!. I later found out that later model camaro's used the same setup.

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Justin im liking your build already.....and your not doing things by half measures.......kept up the good work.....the only panel on my car thats original is the roof to.....and i should of changed that to
Well, It actually started as a carby kit cause I had a fuel leak. But once I kept looking, I got sucked in.... I hate how the build bug bites and doesn't let go till you've done it properly..
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Old 27-08-2014, 09:34 PM
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Great to see behind the scenes of another major build. I sure envy the commitment so many make to take a decent driver to this level. Good luck with the next stages Justin and hope its not in Paint Jail too long Cheers.
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Great to see another awesome build taking shape - it is very addictive and consuming at the same time
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Old 29-08-2014, 11:03 PM
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Inspirational stuff mate well played.
Will be well worth the wait
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Old 29-08-2014, 11:28 PM
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Another great looking build to follow. I'll agree with Jay's service. Not many dudes like him. Bet you were excited when the crate arrived. I've watched a few vids with their rear setup. Looks like a great thing.

Any idea what colour you'll go & the style of wheels? Need something decent to clear those brakes
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Old 30-08-2014, 12:32 PM
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Another great looking build to follow. I'll agree with Jay's service. Not many dudes like him. Bet you were excited when the crate arrived. I've watched a few vids with their rear setup. Looks like a great thing.

Any idea what colour you'll go & the style of wheels? Need something decent to clear those brakes
I'll probably paint it the same colour, or a bit brighter with the bumble bee stripe. I love old school looks, so I'm thinking first up I'll get some 17" rallye steelies to start with cause there cheap and an original style. I love the look of them on Tim Allens Camaro.

http://www.summitracing.com/int/sear...g&autoview=SKU

I'd also love to get a set of these in 18's", but the cost is holding me back. They look sweet on this Chevelle..

http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/1...-(by-Forgeline)
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