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Old 19-10-2017, 09:40 PM
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First Camaros: What Was the Height Deal?

So we've all seen the 'volcano' TVCs from 1967 and the print ads, but I always wondered: "Why did some of the first gen cars look lower and others higher?"

To the point where some look 'bagged' (in current speak) and others jacked up. I can only assume the designers wanted it low, so used them for the ads, but the engineers needed them higher (for suspension travel) and that's how they actually got built. Thoughts?

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Old 19-10-2017, 10:31 PM
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Because lower looks better. You've been in this caper Deano, the magic of television
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Old 20-10-2017, 05:47 AM
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I assisted in a photoshoot of a new Honda Odyssey some years ago.
We sand-bagged the sh!t out of that piece of crap in order to get it to look "good".
Never look at promo photos for a factory ride height indication.
Your Factory Assembly Instruction Manual has all the ride height dimensions.
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Old 20-10-2017, 06:34 AM
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I assisted in a photoshoot of a new Honda Odyssey some years ago.
We sand-bagged the sh!t out of that piece of crap in order to get it to look "good".
Never look at promo photos for a factory ride height indication.
Your Factory Assembly Instruction Manual has all the ride height dimensions.
Or for 1/4 mile times . Good to see you back Steve.
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Old 20-10-2017, 10:35 AM
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most of the time they're not even photos. mostly drawings. so they just do what looks good.

even now they still use drawings for pretty much all the billboards/print ads and static shots.
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Old 20-10-2017, 03:45 PM
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I assisted in a photoshoot of a new Honda Odyssey some years ago.
We sand-bagged the sh!t out of that piece of crap in order to get it to look "good".
Never look at promo photos for a factory ride height indication.
Your Factory Assembly Instruction Manual has all the ride height dimensions.
Welcome back Steve, we missed you and your technical sh!t.
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Old 20-10-2017, 04:15 PM
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Fords were doing it with their illustrations in the fishop era they always looked lower and wider than in real life. btw wb steve.

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Old 21-10-2017, 01:43 PM
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Hehe.. Yes, I've spent 15yrs+ of shooting TVCs, press ads & PR photos for the auto industry so I understand a few liberties are taken along the way. But back then seems they were just taking the p!ss in drawings especially...

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Old 21-10-2017, 02:58 PM
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Your answer lies in the GM advertising - The "Hugger" . The 67 Camaro was promoted as "The road hugging fun car from Chevrolet. Lower , wider and heavier than any other sportster at its price , it rides solid and steady like a big car. Yet it handles like a spirited sports car. CAMARO. This as well as the other advertising slogans created the desire.

Photoshop or some equivalent program or whatever they used was well used back in the day. They used to promote the cars as low and wide stance.

If you get a Camaro to have the wheels that far up in the guards the springs are either flat or inverted. Often if you look close enough in the GM promo photos you can see the cars are not even on the ground , they are held up with stands.

You must see it (even if less exaggerated) even in todays advertising etc?




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Hehe.. Yes, I've spent 15yrs+ of shooting TVCs, press ads & PR photos for the auto industry so I understand a few liberties are taken along the way. But back then seems they were just taking the p!ss in drawings especially...

Check that 'vert - Tuckin' rim, baby!!

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........ Often if you look close enough in the GM promo photos you can see the cars are not even on the ground , they are held up with stands.

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The clay models and other concepts were held up with jack stands but not sure about the actual production images.
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