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Old 05-06-2018, 03:17 PM
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Import Approval For Local Car Not on Database?

Hiya all,

Just wondering the required steps for the below case:

- 70's US-produced vehicle, with local RHD conversion in 90's
- Was successfully registered & driven in QLD for years
- Registration lapsed over 10 years ago and the vehicle is not listed in the current national rego database
- There is no ‘blue’ mod plate (often seen on Qld imported vehicles)

So.. what’s required to get rego in Victoria?

No doubt a VASS certificate from an engineer then RWC, but I wasn’t sure about an Import Approval or other (given that it’s an overseas vehicle).

Any thoughts appreciated! Cheers, Deano
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:39 PM
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My understanding is the without either the import approval papers or some evidence of previous registration, you will be in for a world of hurt on this, i.e. you will not be able to register it.

Some guys have struggled with 60's US cars that were sold new here back in the day because they couldn't provide evidence of import approval.
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Old 05-06-2018, 07:46 PM
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Ask the dept Deano it changes often. In Qld now if it was registered there’s no issue. If it was LHD and mostly unmodified it doesn’t even need a blue plate now.
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:01 PM
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Ask the dept Deano it changes often. In Qld now if it was registered there’s no issue. If it was LHD and mostly unmodified it doesn’t even need a blue plate now.
Yeah, it's not on the national database so no system proof it was previously rego'd (in Qld or anywhere). So as far as they're concerned it doesn't exist. Hence assume need engineer, but wasn't sure about Import Approval. Asking Vicroads anything is a nightmare, so thought would try the crew here first
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:33 PM
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You mention that there is "no system proof" but do you have old rego papers, a window sticker, etc?
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:36 PM
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You probably want to check directly with the QLD rego authorities, they may have more historical data.
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Old 06-06-2018, 05:12 AM
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whats up ?

What you up to Deano? What are you looking at ?
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:32 AM
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You probably want to check directly with the QLD rego authorities, they may have more historical data.
Yup this is the best way to go Deano. They should be able to run the vin.
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Old 06-06-2018, 10:44 AM
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Whilst I haven't done this myself and don't know the intimate details, I know of two different cars with separate owners that had cars without import approval.

All they did was apply for import approval themselves, disclosing that the cars were already here.

They both got import approval for the cars.
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:01 AM
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Thanks guys. So just to clarify;
- There is no rego plate, sticker, old rego papers or history of what the rego number was. Not even a photo.
- It changed hands (unregistered) within a family over several decades and details were lost.
- As stated, we've run the VIN with Qld Dept Transport and they have no record of it nor the Engine #. Rego expired before the current database system.
- My mate who is ex-cop also ran the VIN and no record.

I know it's an unusual one. I'll reach out to Vicroads *groan* and see what the options are. Cheers.
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Was successfully registered & driven in QLD for years
You don't need import approval if this is the case.


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we've run the VIN with Qld Dept Transport and they have no record of it nor the Engine #. Rego expired before the current database system.
Are you saying that a govt. department decided to throw away all their previous records because of a new database system?

Fkn unbelievable!

I also find it unusual that an owner of a car and a US car at that, doesn't have a scrap of paperwork to show proof of ownership; could be stolen. Everyone would know if you want to sell a car you keep the last rego paper to sign the back of it before you swap hands.

I'd be shopping for something else just to avoid the headache, drama, extra costs and the possibility a previous owner might recognise his stolen car, then you'll be in a world of pain.

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I know of two different cars with separate owners that had cars without import approval.

All they did was apply for import approval themselves, disclosing that the cars were already here.

They both got import approval for the cars.
They would've got copies of the original import approvals or documents saying their cars had previously been imported with approval rather than new import approvals for their cars.

If the above-mentioned car was imported as a wreck, for spares, racing, etc. you may find it did not ever have approval for registration and it won't be able to be registered.

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Old 02-07-2018, 12:47 PM
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Hey guys, so thanks for your replies around this.

I was looking at a 1976 Chevy Blazer with RHD conversion & factory 400 SBC.

It was advertised in the low/mid-teens for a while, but got dropped to $10k as it needed more work that the ad first implied & was a mess, piled with parts etc. I went to inspect it and really dug it. Load of potential to finish off to be a cool rig (that I see as appreciating, as Broncos have done).

It was at this time I did the full background check and made the owner aware of the sitch not being on the database. He chased prior-owning family members etc for a rego etc, but to no avail. So i walked away, then a month later it got relisted at a (seemingly crazy cheap) $6.5k, prompting this thread. But got snapped up after a few days.

Funnily enough, two weeks later and it's listed again, but in Qld and fully cleaned up etc, for $8.5k. Either a family member is helping with the sale or somebody got it for a quick (low profit) flip.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...SSE-AD-5522152

Anyhoo, I can't really take on another project right now, but was nice checking it out, researching these things and playing with the idea I spent hours climbing all over it, so if any members interested, happy to share deets. Cheers.

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You don't need import approval if this is the case.




Are you saying that a govt. department decided to throw away all their previous records because of a new database system?

Fkn unbelievable!

I also find it unusual that an owner of a car and a US car at that, doesn't have a scrap of paperwork to show proof of ownership; could be stolen. Everyone would know if you want to sell a car you keep the last rego paper to sign the back of it before you swap hands.

I'd be shopping for something else just to avoid the headache, drama, extra costs and the possibility a previous owner might recognise his stolen car, then you'll be in a world of pain.



They would've got copies of the original import approvals or documents saying their cars had previously been imported with approval rather than new import approvals for their car

If the above-mentioned car was imported as a wreck, for spares, racing, etc. you may find it did not ever have approval for registration and it won't be able to be registered.

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No, they actually got new approval...
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Old 06-06-2018, 11:21 AM
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It's probably not that unusual in the scheme of things and it looks like Chris has given you an option to pursue regards applying for retrospective import approval.
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Ah sorry Deano I didn’t see you already run the Vin with Qld transport. Sounds like a lot of hassle then.
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