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Old 13-09-2006, 05:25 PM
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My 1967 Camaro Restoration/Rebuild

Well most of this is being posted/converted from a bunch of emails i've been sending all my mates and any other people who were asking me about the progress on my car.. i found it easier just to write up something and send it across to everyone with a few pics of the progress...

I'll try get it all in date order, so bear with me while i slowly get this up on this forum..

Steve...

This is what i bought early September 2005 (i'll include all the stats in the next post)



And this is what i want to build.. or very similar...






P.S. Ignore all the dates in all my photo's as i don't know how to set the camera up properly i'll try put proper dates on all posts...
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Old 19-09-2006, 02:04 PM
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**Please ignore all dates on photo's, i'm still trying to work the friggen thing out....

After having owned and built numerous VL's (turbo and non-turbo) I decided to finally buy something different.. I had a few cars in mind.. the 3 leading cars were a Ferrari (308 GTx), a early Camaro or a T-Bucket. And of coarse the temptation to do something I know (a VL) was always there..

Each car was chosen for various reasons, Ferrari because ever since I was young I always had a matchbox Ferrari of some sort and I just wanted to say I owned a Ferrari in my younger years..

The Camaro again because I had matchbox versions, and always loved them, was starting see a few more here an there and they were GM's response to the mustang..

A T-Bucket.. well what can I say.. everyone loves a t-bucket.. it's a driveline bolted to a chassis and (literally) a bucket bolted down to it for the driver... can't get any simpler, and I can respray it every other weekend if I want..

In between I checked out a few other cars but nothing really took my fancy.. and as pointed out in the first post I settled on a 1967 Camaro.

In mid september 2005 i came accross one and deicided to buy it...


Now, I would just like to point out I did not jump on the "Camaro" band wagon. I bought it in Sep 2005 after nearly 6 months of looking. As far as I know the price hike and sudden popularity of them started in Jan '06, as that's when I noticed all the spare parts started rocketing in price ... So I got in just in time.

I bought it for a very tidy sum.. allot lower than what you'd expect to find a Camaro in very bad condition now days. I bought it with the intentions of having a project and building it up, i did not look for a "completed" car as it takes away a bit of the fun of having to build it up myself... So here's what i got.. Was only in Australia for a few weeks before i got to it.








It came with a chev-327 (originally a 350 according to the build plates) with a Powerglide, all being put to the ground by 10 bolt diff.






The interior was a bit 'iffy' so the person I bought it off chucked in a brand new OEM black interior. Build plates say it came with the "special" interior but I'm not fussed.




After going over the car thoroughly I knew it had a guard replaced and some rust here and there which was expected.. but the seller also gave me a new genuine rear valance panel and cowl hood. Also included was a rear spoiler, new interior trim bits and pieces, new chrome handles, new mirrors, wipers, badges etc.. also gave me a bush kit, chassis to body rubbers and a whole heap of other stuff.. (all for free) so I think I did quite well.

Also anytime I need anything, I can ask him directly he can find it for me and gives it to me at a very good price...
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Old 19-09-2006, 03:16 PM
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on the 03 of September 2005 i took delivery of my new pride and joy....





Came to my door and i quickly tucked it into it's temporary home until somewhere more permanent (and roomy) could be arragned

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Old 19-09-2006, 04:00 PM
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Original Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 9:50 AM


Decided to do some work on Saturday morning. Firstly I traveled to my new favorite place in the whole wide word ‘Lylidale Industrial Park’ (in Vic), it has every single automotive business in regards to American cars any one can think off. I made the trip to talk to a Right Hand drive conversion specialist (as my can is currently left hand drive), although they mainly do mustangs there is a guy their named ‘Colin’ that knows his camaro’s and ffered to do it for me.
We worked out a price (lets just say my Girlfriend has to wait a bit longer for that ring), and figured out how he needs the car, front end striped, motor out, interior removed, and wiring gone. I went home just after lunch and started doing it all.







Decided first thigs first... the front had to be stripped so i could take out the motor... Nothing too hard, just a couple of bolts needed to be WD40'd to "help" them out...
I thought no pointin screwing around and taking the motor and auto out seperatly, since they needed to both be out i just took them out in 1 piece.. allot easier.. disconnected the tailshaft etc first offcoarse...








and here's the 327 my girlfriend has claimed as her "spare" motor for her 39 Chev...



I continued stripping the whole front off, guards and all, took all the interior out, wiring dash etc was also removed, as it would make it easier for the RH conversion.

This is bassically what it ended up looking like by the end of the night..





Didn’t finish until late, and only broke 1 thing.. but that one thing happened to be something expensive.. the windscreen, and it’s an old American car, so I can’t exactly call windscreen o’brians to get a new one like i'd be used to with the commodores.. And that was probably the only thing that i should have been able to salvage from it.. looked it was replaced not that long ago, oh well these things happen...


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Old 19-09-2006, 04:11 PM
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Originally Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2005 10:11 AM


On Monday the camaro was sent to conversion place to be changed to a Right Hand Drive, and I got some happy snaps after it arrived.


This is what it is like in it’s present state.. hopefully it’s only there a week or 2 then it’s home and I can start to work my magic….










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Old 19-09-2006, 04:42 PM
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The Search for a Original BB 427 Begins.

Originally Sent: Monday, 28 November 2005 2:42 PM


I decided I wanted to go a big block, I have the opportunity to so why not.. if I wanted to build a small block car I'd go something cheaper...
And the BigBlock I decided upon... a 427.

They came out in the special edition Yanko camaro's so I could get away with it if I had any questions from the Authorities or Vic Roads..I can say it was a factory/dealer option

Anyway, apparently it's hard to find original 427's.,. there are plenty of 454's that have been down stroked (which is a last resort for me), since they have the exact same casts it's just a matter of changing the crank. and that's it.. (as far as I can tell from my research and questions)..

Anyway I've been looking for a few and any that do come up are very expensive (almost as much as I paid for the actual car)...

I constantly have with me a 427 "bible" that I can quickly index to check if it's original or not.. don't ask me why I'm being picky.. but I just am....

Here's an example of one of the first apparent 427's I checked out...


Casting

Casting Number 3963512

From this we know:

It was produced between the years 1969 – 1972

Can be either a 427 or 454

Can be a 2 or 4 bolt main




http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca...es.asp?group=1



Suffix Code


T02I3CPD

(as it can be seen it has the layout of the post 70’s code of ‘F0114CMB’ and not the pre 70’s of ‘F0114MB’)


From this we deduce

T = Engine Assembly Plant Tonawanda Engine Plant
02 = Assembly Month February
13 Assembly Day 13th
C = Motor Division – Chevrolet Passenger car
PD = only on 454



(codes shown include motor division i.e. CPD)



http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-ca...s.asp?group=12
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on the 03 of September 2005 i took delivery of my new pride and joy....





Came to my door and i quickly tucked it into it's temporary home until somewhere more permanent (and roomy) could be arragned

nice job. Do you know what steering box they use?
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Old 21-09-2006, 07:05 PM
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Looks like things are coming along great Steve, always interested to see your progress on such a bitchin' car
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Old 21-09-2006, 07:31 PM
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Looks like things are coming along great Steve, always interested to see your progress on such a bitchin' car

Thanks Neil It's a headache compared to the VL's i built.. but i love the new challenges it gives me.. constantly learning new skills can only be a bonus!
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Old 21-09-2006, 07:34 PM
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It's a headache compared to the VL's i built.. but i love the new challenges it gives me.. constantly learning new skills can only be a bonus!

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Old 21-09-2006, 07:09 PM
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Originally Sent: Wednesday, 21 June 2006 4:00 PM

Well on Saturday I (and my helper Rodney) welded in the Right hand side rear quarter panel we started the previous week.
As the previous email shows I came across some rusted inner panels that I thought I might as well replace as I don’t want the rust to come back up.

The parts came in over the week, and on Saturday we went ahead and replaced them before putting on the outer panel.





Old Rusted panels were removed, all the spot welds had to be drilled.
And I had to cut some of the wheel arch out as rust had started to come through on that also.




Pre-fit test of the “lower trunk floor panel”, fitted in better than I expected..




The lower trunk panel was tacked in just to hold it in place while we cut and fitted the removed wheel arch section.




All welded in and sprayed with an etch to make sure rust wouldn’t bother it again…







As you can see it’s come up perfectly. It isn’t viewable unless you remove/cut the panel, but no point in doing something half arsed.


Once that was completed we could do what we started last week..

Fit the actual panel…
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Old 21-09-2006, 07:09 PM
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(continued)

It was step welded as explained in the last email, and mig welded (thanks to Woody’s/Ford Ragtop’s welder) in.

Nearly 30 holes were punched into the new panel to make the welds neater and stronger. It was also welded from behind in some section to reinforce the welds on the outside.

This picture shows the final test fitting.. we had to get it perfect as a stuff up here would show up only once the car is fully prepped.




Lines came up really well, and the back was allot better than expected. I thought I’d end up with a big gap that would require a patch weld or something.




Once we got it all right.. it was fully welded into place… and the semi final product is as below.




All the welds need to be grinded flat which I’ll leave for another day as I’m going to have allot more grinding to do and might as well do it all at once.


So all I have left currently is the rust on the left hand side. All the replacement bits have been cut and shaped (7 pieces), and the plan is to get it all in this weekend..



This is the section that needs to be replaced… Where the holes are you should be able to make out a weld line. It’s where it seems as if the panel has bee replaced previously but was not prepped properly hence the rust came up.



This is a photo from inside where you can see the old panel overlapping the new one. The only weld I can make out is a line of brass along the top, which needs to be cut out.

The replacement panel they put in has a genuine GM stamp on it, and from memory it has a date stamp of 1978.. or ‘87 I can’t remember…




Anyway, as of next week hopefully it will look allot better….

Steve.


P.S. thanks Woddy for letting me borrow the mig again.. The Argon seems to make a big difference compared to the gasless welder…


http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/ - A Great site I found when I was trying to research and improve my welding skills
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Old 21-09-2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Sent: Monday, 3 July 2006 9:49 PM

Over the last two Saturdays I’ve been working meticulously trying to finish off all the body welding so I could return the welder to Donna’s dad..

Here’s what I achieved…

Finished putting in the Right Hand side guard I had started a few weeks earlier… came up a treat, very happy with the end result…
*Again ignore the dates on he photo’s, every time I recharge it the dates reset…








After completing that I also replaced a small bit of rust in the same wheel arch section (below).. I had a spare guard so I thought I might as well use as much of it as I can… Again this came up very good, once painted it will be very hard to pick the new section.


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Old 21-09-2006, 07:20 PM
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(Continued)

Since the easy part was done, I thought I’d tackle to hard part… last email I sent a pic showing how bad the metal had been eaten through, it was due to the original repair not being prepped properly. You could make out the grind marks and see bog in it, it obviously wasn’t etched to prevent the moisture that can build up in bog contacting the bare metal, hence the rust.

Anyway here are a few photo’s of how it was repaired. Initially due to the large area and the fact that it curved in so many different way I could not fabricate a single piece of steel to encompass all the curves, so I had sectioned it off into 6 parts (later revised to 8) and I cut and bent sections to fit (thanks to a donated near new Civic bonnet that my brother and I “borrowed” because it most closely matched the material thickness)

In the following 2 photo’s you can see where I cut the first section and welded in the new piece.. this was done the whole way along, 1 at a time as to try and keep the original shape.






As well as bending the metal into shape we (I and my helper Rod) had to heat the metal and stretch to more closely fit the area . This was achieved by using the oxy building up the metal heat until it got red hot then stretching it by lightly hammering and pulling on it. This helped make sure the pieces fit closer together as well.

In the following picture you can see the heat marks on the 2 pieces we stretched together before welding.








The following piece was initially cut out into 1 piece but when we trial fitted it we couldn’t get the angles right so we had to cut it into 3 separate pieces.




And once cut up and welded in it fitted nicely.
Here are the finished product pictures.














In the middle of doing that since I had the welder I thought I might as well fill in the holes that were hacked into the parcel shelf…
Unfortunately I forgot to take before pics.. but here is a “after” one.





So hopefully that concludes any major welding I need to do.. I can now concentrate on the easy stuff… trying to remove that crappy original paint, and taking the body back to bare metal properly. And prepping with some fillers/bog and undercoats.. I can’t wait..

P.S. Again big THANKS! to Woody (Ford Ragtop) for lending me the welder… I owe you a gas refill….
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Old 21-09-2006, 07:28 PM
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Originally Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:32 AM


*ignore dates on photo’s.. etc..

I know most of you are probably sick of getting these.. but I need to do this so I have my own record of what I’ve done and it makes me get of my a$$ and actually do things if I feel I have to send updates out..

Anyway..

After the weeding on Friday night I was up nice and early Saturday morning to do some work on the car.

Since I’ve done 99% of the body repair work, I thought it would be time to put it up on a trolley so I could start moving it around.
My brother and I quickly dropped the diff (10bolt chev if any one cares).. and got it up on a trolley.

About 2 weeks ago, my father and I knocked up this trolley,




It came up surprisingly well, apart from the fact that I didn’t take into account the height of the wheels or the base they needed and hence I have an extra 6.5” (16cm).. nothing to worry about you say? Well it goes from having the roof line just under eye level to it being nearly over my head L .. I might make it adjustable height later on (or buy some milk crates) , but I’ll leave the roof till last..

Anyway the rails slot in under the car along the seals and I’ve rig a sort of “clamp” (bolts with big washers) that bolt along the trolley and the lower seal to stop it from sliding.

Shell is moveable along the trolley so If it’s in the way it’s only a matter of loosening the bolts and I can move it. It’s balanced quite well and does not tilt even with my brothers full weight on either side…




So now I can start the fun part..

I started taking it back to full metal and decided to start on the new section i’d welded in last week to see how it came up




.. and here is the end result (in etch primer)




*I think I need to clean the camera lense…




Not bad yeah?

I still need to high fill and get the shapes 110% but hopefully it doesn’t prove to much of a challenge.

And that’s about all I really done.. I was dead tired and called it an early day, as I had a birthday to go to that night.


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