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Old 28-04-2018, 06:10 PM
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Flashing brake lights illegal in NSW?

This one keeps rearing it's ugly head for some time now; it seems they may be cracking down on it now. Taken from another forum:

This has been in force for over 12 months now but not many people aware of it. RMS has only notified the safety examiners that issue pink/blue slips but never told the public. If your classic US muscle still has indicators flashing with brake lights it is now subject to a defect notice.
This is a subtract I have received from RMS last year. It is dated 29/3/2017.
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"In accordance with the Road Transport (Vehicle Registration) Regulations 2007, Schedule 2, Regulation 124 and Australian Design Rule 13, flashing brake lights are not permitted. Vehicles should be failed under Rule 106.2 and comment flashing brake light. For further information please contact Technical Enquiries on 1300 137 302 or send an email to technical.enquiries@rms.nsw.gov.au"
For some vehicles it is fairly simple to separate brakes from indicators but how about unique situations like a '60's Thunderbird with sequential tail lights. I rang RMS regarding this.......answer was..... too bad.


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Old 28-04-2018, 10:09 PM
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This came up on another forum:

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Who's the idiot that's been interpreting their legislation for them?

I thought I might do some checking of my own.

Reg. 124 actually applies quite specifically to "other" lights "not mentioned elsewhere" in the "schedule". That actually means it does NOT apply to either brake lights or indicator lights (it's intended to deal with **** like police beacons and auxilliary warning devices).

Reg. 107 deals with brake lights (ie mentioned elsewhere in the schedule) and there is NOTHING in it that prohibits flashing brake lights.

Regs. 110 to 113 deal with indicator lights (ie mentioned elsewhere in the schedule) and Reg. 113 specifically permits red flashing indicator lights on vehicles built before july 1973

The Australian LVS (which is the basis for much of the NSW vehicle registration regs, in fact the majority is lifted holus bolus from it) defines a combined brake light and indicator to be a brake light if the vehicle is built before 1 Jan 1973.

Maybe it's fake news but if it's real then sorting out this sort of overstep is exactly what peak bodies are for.
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Old 29-04-2018, 12:27 AM
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This came up on another forum:
^ That sounds rather promising, apparently the RMS is giving that inspector misinformation if the above excuses old US cars here. Perhaps the above should be brought to their attention.

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Old 29-04-2018, 08:03 AM
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Cougars had flashing brake lights as standard. I’m sure other cars would have as well.
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Old 29-04-2018, 08:07 AM
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Cougars had flashing brake lights as standard. Im sure other cars would have as well.
True but the worrying part is that someone at the RMS is telling inspectors; 'tough luck' and not to pass them for a pink or blue slip.

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My 68 Vette has dual indicator/brake lights and I have always thought that that gave my car just a bit more to the cool factor.

I'd hate to think that for decades these cars have been driving around the world with this combo and has never been a problem, then some dumb ar5e Aussie goes and sticks his stupid beak in and stuffs everything up for us.
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Old 29-04-2018, 09:04 AM
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then some dumb ar5e Aussie goes and sticks his stupid beak in and stuffs everything up for us.
Aus. politicians, bureaucrats, etc. have a habit of doing that; we really are becoming a Nanny State.

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Old 29-04-2018, 12:25 PM
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Don't FE Holdens have a red combo brake light/blinker?
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My coupe has flashing tail lights the only downside is people get up me for "not using my indicators" .
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In Queensland the standard is that the lights must meet the ADR standard as of year of manufacture. Orange indicators did not come into force till 71 or 72 so any car built before than does not need them so using the taillight as the indicator is legal
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Makes you wonder how the new mustangs get on
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The new muzzys would be compliant to whatever adr is in place for new cars.

---------- Post added at 09:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:43 AM ----------

The same crazy laws apply to old cars with seat belts. Mine had to be replaced with lap belts far inferior to the belts it left the factory with.
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Makes you wonder how the new mustangs get on
They've been changed to comply before they enter the country. They also have clear covers whereas in the USA the diffusers are red.





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