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cluxford
05-06-2012, 08:41 AM
OK, time for my new build thread.

here is the photo that 5 years ago made me want to buy this car.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/BuickSideWoodward.jpg

Car purchased and on it's way over.

Will become my new daily drive with a 160K round trip each day thus reliability is the key to this build.

Not a show car, just one hellava cool commuter taxi

My plan was to rip the 364 Nailhead and Dynoflo (and possibly diff) and swap for a more common LSx Chev for EFI, parts availability, local knowledge etc

Having read a lot last night though on nailheads (and in the spirit of keeping a Buick in a Buick) I'm keeping the nailhead and the Dynoflo and the diff.

A bit about nailheads for the novice.

The 364ci Buick is a great motor (4.125in bore)x(3.40in stroke) and 300HP stock with 4 barrel. Buick motors put out more torque than Chevs and are quite reliable. They are a stout motor that can be built pretty sweet. The Nailhead had a big-bore, short-stroke design that offered tremendous torque, spread out over a wide RPM range. Introduced in 1953, the overhead valve Buick design incorporated vertical valves (the small size of which gave rise to its somewhat uncomplimentary nickname of  “Nailhead”) and a pent-roof combustion chamber. With its small valves and tight intake and exhaust ports, Buick used a very interesting camshaft as its stock offereing, with higher lift and longer duration. The distributors were in the rear and the starters were on the driver’s side, unlike later Buick engines. The less timing advance needed in an engine means it has a good combustion camber design; the Nailhead has the least timing advance (30 degrees) that I know of and the spark plug is right in the middle of the chamber for a short flame travel. The blocks have a tall deck height (Great I now own 2 tall deck V8's :) ) for a good rod stroke ratio (the taller block allows for a longer rod). The short stroke lets the engine spin quicker than a longer stroke engine. The small bearing sizes mean the bearings run cooler and need less oil. Every Nailhead, not just the high performance models, had forged rods and cranks. Rocker arm shafts are much stronger than studs with rockers on them. The whole valvetrain is very light so softer valve springs can be used for less engine wear and quicker revs. The small exhaust valve heads don’t have as much pressure against them when they are being opened, meaning less preasure againt them when they are being opened. Cracks are rare in a Nailhead cylinder head, and they rarely leak oil because of the way the valve covers are designed. The ports are smaller than most HP engines but designed with high velocity. They are externally balanced.

OK so my plan on arrival into Oz:

Change the generator over to an alternator but at the same time put all new front runner system on it. March have a bolt on for Nailheads. But need to get black anodised I think, no bling for this motor given it's a daily. But having said that this looks way way cool with the finned rockers and air cleaner...Hmmm..I can see the bills racking up now...

http://www.marchperf.com/products/buick-nailhead.jpg


Clean up the engine bay
- Tidy up the electrics so it's a bit cleaner - won't rewire at this stage, but may later
- Paint the engine bay black and general clean / tidy up - will get Stylerod to do this for me
- EFI and electronic ignition
- Needs a fan shroud or a swap to a new radiator with thermos given the driving I'll be doing
- change all the fluids, filters etc etc
- general check for wear and tear, replace any bushes / bearings that might be a bit suspect

Then hit the streets !

So minimal outlay and quick time to cruising

Later on, well after she has a lot more miles on it I will probably:
1. 9" with rear discs on it so I don't have to sleeve and replace 50+ year old drums
2. Vintage Air
3. More modern wipers - with melb rain they may come earlier than planned


More updates to follow

tonner
05-06-2012, 08:47 AM
Sounds like a good plan Chris,

Greg

RATATAK
05-06-2012, 09:15 AM
Think your car looks absolutely wicked .

Just wondering though ,as a daily driver , where would you park it ? as parking bays these days just aren't made to accommodate something as special as this. Just hope that the other numb nuts out there on the road appreciate it for its worth.

YenkoSC
05-06-2012, 09:30 AM
Can't wait to see the build on this one :D

chevguy
05-06-2012, 09:53 AM
Sounds like a common sense plan Chris. Hardest thing is to not get carried away and end up with something that's not fit for the purpose you are buying it for. I agree on things like wipers and headlights to be done initially.

RAW454
05-06-2012, 11:13 AM
Stoked about this (for you) ;) Any basic specs (or elements of the ad) you can share with us mate? Ditto pix?

What are your thoughts for the approach bringing it in smoothly?

And interesting move keeping the nailhead for such a big commute, but I guess your definition of "quite reliable" must be stronger than mine:) Don't forget some fresh door/window seals for the Melbourne winters too :D

Hanging to see the progress!

tuffss
05-06-2012, 11:35 AM
Cool ride Chris, looks s**t hot, suppose the next few weeks won't come quick enough, congrats.
Cheers Mick.

qik66
05-06-2012, 11:44 AM
You should also look at fitting something like the MSD Atomic EFI to it. Would have to improve your fuel economy and driveability. also get to keep the cool factor under the bonnet.

love the car, very jealous

Frank351
05-06-2012, 11:54 AM
I love it Chris !

What's the colour BTW ? Standard Buick colour ?

Cheers,
Frank.

cluxford
05-06-2012, 12:08 PM
You should also look at fitting something like the MSD Atomic EFI to it. Would have to improve your fuel economy and driveability. also get to keep the cool factor under the bonnet.

love the car, very jealous

oops yep, sorry yes EFI and Electric ignition was supposed to be on the list...will edit, ;)

Nev68
05-06-2012, 01:34 PM
oops yep, sorry yes EFI and Electric ignition was supposed to be on the list...will edit, ;)

A good choice, especially for the daily duties.
I've been looking at this as an alternative to LS1 /2 options for my next car, there seems to be a few options around now, but not sure about your inlet manifold options for the nailhead.

BuickGSX455
05-06-2012, 02:21 PM
Heaps of Nailhead info here.

http://www.v8buick.com/forumdisplay.php?9-Da-Nailhead

An excellent Buick focused forum with lots of very very experienced guys, much like this forum only American. :)

68ls1
05-06-2012, 03:18 PM
Looks like the Fast Ez-EFI works well

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=373915&postcount=197

Russ
05-06-2012, 03:35 PM
Nice ride Clucky! That'll be a sweet daily.

anychevy
05-06-2012, 03:46 PM
here is the photo that 5 years ago made me want to buy this car.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/BuickSideWoodward.jpg
Car purchased and on it's way over.

That's the actual car you bought ? Awesome, what a sled ! VERY :cool:

cluxford
05-06-2012, 06:35 PM
That's the actual car you bought ? Awesome, what a sled ! VERY :cool:

Yes sir this is the actual car I bought....

Frank351
05-06-2012, 07:19 PM
I love it Chris !

What's the colour BTW ? Standard Buick colour ?

Cheers,
Frank.

Looks like Venice blue , yeah ?

Starting to look for colours to paint the Elky.

Cheers,
Frank.

cluxford
05-06-2012, 08:57 PM
Think your car looks absolutely wicked .

Just wondering though ,as a daily driver , where would you park it ? as parking bays these days just aren't made to accommodate something as special as this. Just hope that the other numb nuts out there on the road appreciate it for its worth.

I have secure parking and guy who parks next to me (pillar on the other side) knows I'm a car guy and he parks drivers side away from my car. I drive a 5.2M grange today that pokes out a bit, the Lesabre is 5.4M long and 20cm wider than the grange so should be OK

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I love it Chris !

What's the colour BTW ? Standard Buick colour ?

Cheers,
Frank.

Sorry for the late reply Frank, yeah it's the original paint but has been clear coated about 8 years ago, so polishes up nicely (or so I'm told)

It's Venice Blue Irridescent and Arctic White paint

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Heaps of Nailhead info here.

http://www.v8buick.com/forumdisplay.php?9-Da-Nailhead

An excellent Buick focused forum with lots of very very experienced guys, much like this forum only American. :)

Thanks Colin, signed up there back in 07 when I first started looking at this car, spent most of the weekend on there doing research (and a few other sites)

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So a few more pics....I've also cut and paste some of the "ad" info from the original 2007 ad (first) and the more recent (2012) ad. Some "as is" pics as well....

The car is quite uncommon to find, many Impala, or Bel-Air bubbletops are out there, but not so many Buicks, especially one as nice as this unrestored example. This car still sports its ORIGINAL Venice Blue Irridescent and Arctic White paint, interior, glass chrome etc etc...and still runs, great I might add, with its 364" nailhead and still on its original spark plug wires! (dated 2-Q-61). The car runs beautifully, the trim is near perfect, still has its original T-3 headlights. It has one of the nicest unrestored interiors you will find, right down to the carpet....I bought it with 46,200 miles, and now shows 49,015 original miles, no leaks, no drips. I also have a title from Ohio in 1987 when it had only 42,500 miles..less than 4500 miles in 20 years. 2 speed dynaflow works perfectly.If you are familier with old Buicks from 60-61, you know that this car has the "heads-up display" magic mirror dash, where the gauges reflect into an adjustable mirror...incredible for 1961. The car spent half its life in AZ and half in OH....never any rust...ever. The original paint is downright spectacular!

Now the good stuff...The old high altitude coil springs have been swapped out for new V3.0 Swivelhead Shockwave airbags in the front and 2600lb. Firestone air springs out back...2 Viar compressors and 2 discreetly mounted switches control the ride height, from way up...down to sitting on the ground. This system was all professionally installed, and if you know airride, you know this is not some cheapo system. The wheels are 18X8 and 20X9.5 Billet Specialties and the front disc brakes are C5 Corvette Z06 brakes. These, in addition to replaces the generator with an alternator are the only mods done to the car. You can even see the original paint stamps from the factory clear as a bell on the firewall "OK Options" and "Complete Electrical Wire Test"

I have had many cars in the past, Camaros etc.....but you pull in with this rig at a show, dump the bags and watch the crowd come a runnin'!

The car is really that nice...and even more unique. If you dare to be different..do it in this Buick. I more than welcome you to come and see it in person, you won't be disappointed.:TU:

Asking $37,500, Car is located in Michigan.



1961 Buick LeSabre 2 door hardtop (“Bubbletop”) with less than 50,000 original miles, an extremely nice original interior and the "heads-up display" “magic mirror” dash where the gauges reflect into an adjustable mirror very unique for the 1961 Buick, a clean solid body with original Venice Blue and Arctic White two tone color combination, nice original stainless and chrome trim, good glass, the front and rear bumpers have been straightened and re-plated with triple plate show chrome (“Beautiful job”), a great running 364 2bbl V8 with a solid 2 speed Dyna-flow automatic transmission, power steering, power brakes that have been upgraded with Corvette Z06 disc in front and original drums in rear, the generator has been replaced with an alternator charging system, the original paint stamps from the factory still show on the firewall "OK Options" and "Complete Electrical Wire Test"!

Other modifications include an upgraded suspension system with V3.0 Swivel head Shockwave airbags in the front and 2600lb. Firestone air springs out back, 2 VIAIR compressors keep the air reserve tank full and 2 discreetly mounted switches control the ride height from sitting on the ground to elevated for a comfortable ride height. This high end system was all professionally installed. The wheels are 18X8 and 20X9.5 Billet Specialties.

This is a clean low mile original car with a few upgrades and modifications to make it a head turner where ever you go.



http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/buick2.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image006.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image021.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/buick11.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/buick15.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image071.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image070.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image073.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image067.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image068.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/image072.jpg

YenkoSC
05-06-2012, 10:18 PM
With the airbag system, is it a bolt in job or was fabrication etc required for it to work?

cluxford
05-06-2012, 10:25 PM
Not 100% sure yet Justin....

GM NUT
05-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Love it Chris, that's got some style!
Dig the old school add on's too.

chevguy
06-06-2012, 07:37 AM
Now you own a buick and a camaro do you have to hate yourself?:D:D:D There`s no angle on that car that is ugly.

GM064
06-06-2012, 10:33 AM
Chris,

Absolutely beautiful car...for an outstanding price :). Are you sure that you want to drive it every day? It looks too nice :D:D

Greg

anychevy
06-06-2012, 01:13 PM
I love the dash :cool: it's the epitome of late 50s early 60s "space age", retro cool.

14912

cluxford
14-06-2012, 11:56 AM
On it's way...Leaving Oregon

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/61BuickBubbletop-166j.jpg

Frank351
14-06-2012, 12:35 PM
Now the waiting game begins !

Who is shipping it Chris ?

Cheers,
Frank.

Nev68
14-06-2012, 12:44 PM
What's the import approval status?

cluxford
14-06-2012, 01:04 PM
Now the waiting game begins !

Who is shipping it Chris ?

Cheers,
Frank.

Nashville motors

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What's the import approval status?

Umm...well, lets just say, "in progress"

The 65
14-06-2012, 05:56 PM
Beautiful colour, any ideas on a custom plate?

cluxford
14-06-2012, 08:23 PM
Beautiful colour, any ideas on a custom plate?

I do, and it's available, will order once car in transit

guffer
14-06-2012, 08:40 PM
I do, and it's available, will order once car in transit

Keep that under wraps till you debut the car :cool:

70Nova
14-06-2012, 09:09 PM
Absolutely beautiful car. Great find.

chevguy
15-06-2012, 08:29 AM
I do, and it's available, will order once car in transit

I have an idea for your plate Chris " 2SMOVE " :)

67TT502
15-06-2012, 02:24 PM
"bubtop"

rodent
15-06-2012, 03:51 PM
Cubik

cluxford
18-06-2012, 07:27 PM
Car in LA..general inspection seems it looks the goods. I have to go to New York next week, if I can time it right might swing through LA and check it out (if it's not already crated up)

Playing while bored on a plane....I use Pixelmator as opposed to photoshop.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/BuickSideBW2.jpg

Did this to match my fav B&W / Colour pic of the Camaro, will hang both on the wall at home

whitey27
18-06-2012, 07:51 PM
Car in LA..general inspection seems it looks the goods. I have to go to New York next week, if I can time it right might swing through LA and check it out (if it's not already crated up)

Playing while bored on a plane....I use Pixelmator as opposed to photoshop.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/BuickSideBW2.jpg

Did this to match my fav B&W / Colour pic of the Camaro, will hang both on the wall at home

OMG!!

That is absolute eye candy. One sexy sexy baby!!!

Rs 496
18-06-2012, 08:46 PM
Chris,

Where you off too.


Looks horn
Hilly

68 cam
18-06-2012, 09:51 PM
That's F ing wicked Chris she will sit very nice next to your Camaro well done great find,congrats mate

BLU367
18-06-2012, 10:17 PM
just remembered Chris, a mate of mine here in Brissie has a 62 bubbletop buick (think it is 62, could be wrong). should be completed soon I think.

BuickGSX455
19-06-2012, 10:59 AM
There's a couple in the Buick Club but they are both very stock, one of them looks like a time capsule.

You have done well there Chris, I am very envious but now I won't feel like the one sane guy in a room full of lunatics. :)
When better cars are built, Buick will build them!

cluxford
19-06-2012, 11:16 AM
Chris,

Where you off too.


Looks horn
Hilly

Mark got to be in new York for an investor roadshow I'm presenting at

Rs 496
21-06-2012, 07:57 PM
Nice enjoy catch up when back.


Hilly

cluxford
30-06-2012, 08:25 PM
Colin, forgive me up front

Ok update

Nailhead won't be staying. After further research just my luck I have a 364 nailhead with a 2bbl carby. Railheads are a bit different the 364 is actually a standard deck and has basically no aftermarket. Even 4bbl intakes are rare, also the march front runner doesn't fit a 364. Found one place that does a bolt of efi on a 2bbl but many other challenges

All in all if this was a weekend cruiser the nailhead would stay, but as a daily driver just to hard for what I need, so it's going

So plan is now a SBC, nothing fancy, nothing at all

Straight up 330hp bog stock SBC, Eagle sell a full turn key with everything on it air cleaner to sump, fan belts to flexplate, they also sell mated with a TH350 again with everything lockdown cables, yoke, etc, will even do the entire thing in satin black for me as I plan to have the whole engine bay black for low maintenance

The old dynaflow 2 speed trans will go, they are a shorty box, but 58 - 64 B bodies all shared the same x frame. The TH350 is a direct bolt in, only challenge is need to shorten then front shaft (it's a 2 piece driveshaft) by about 3 inches, while doing this will replace the centre bearing and will also upgrade to a slip yoke telescoping rear shaft also, given it's bagged, this will result in less pressure on the centre bearing with height changes

I'll drive with carby for a while then upgrade to a retrotek bolt on efi later or an ez efi, going to use a piston based mechanical fuel pump with a one way valve and deadhead so no return line, but that will follow

So now it's basically
Sbc and th350 from eagle
Shortened tail shaft
Au radiator and twin thermos
Electric windows
Tidy up the bay and paint black

I need the electric windows to get tickets in parking stations etc, I just ordered a medical grabber tool 32" long from amazon for $19

The 65
30-06-2012, 08:34 PM
That grabber will get you a few odd looks.

cluxford
30-06-2012, 08:41 PM
That grabber will get you a few odd looks.

This is what I ordered

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21AB7ZBCJTL._SS500_.jpg

YenkoSC
30-06-2012, 10:09 PM
What happened with the LS series engine plans?

chevguy
01-07-2012, 07:16 AM
What happened with the LS series engine plans?

I was thinking the same thing, if you want injection,reliability and economy they are hard to beat I would have thought.That grabber is gold Chris, you gotta get a pic taken of using it.:D

cluxford
01-07-2012, 07:29 AM
What happened with the LS series engine plans?

Trans swap means all sorts of frame modification to fit a later model trans up to an LS, all in all just far easier going SBC + TH350 with bolt on injection

Nev68
01-07-2012, 04:10 PM
Looking forward to your build on this one Chris.
Any thoughts on which one of the retro fit injection setups you will fit?
I've got a new project coming and I'm thinking of FAST EZI or MSD Atomic.

torino71martin
01-07-2012, 04:39 PM
This is what I ordered

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21AB7ZBCJTL._SS500_.jpg

THATS GOLD!! Just what i needed,when we had the "throw the coin, TOLLS" The only disadvantage of driving solo in a LHD car,now its just the Dump runs,where i have to get out,and people behind me waiting are going "WTF"

Anchor
02-07-2012, 12:25 AM
Haha, i love the grabber. I've reversed through drive-through maccas before. Might have to get one.

BuickGSX455
02-07-2012, 10:00 AM
Colin, forgive me up front

Ok update

Nailhead won't be staying. After further research just my luck I have a 364 nailhead with a 2bbl carby. Railheads are a bit different the 364 is actually a standard deck and has basically no aftermarket. Even 4bbl intakes are rare, also the march front runner doesn't fit a 364. Found one place that does a bolt of efi on a 2bbl but many other challenges

All in all if this was a weekend cruiser the nailhead would stay, but as a daily driver just to hard for what I need, so it's going

So plan is now a SBC, nothing fancy, nothing at all

Straight up 330hp bog stock SBC, Eagle sell a full turn key with everything on it air cleaner to sump, fan belts to flexplate, they also sell mated with a TH350 again with everything lockdown cables, yoke, etc, will even do the entire thing in satin black for me as I plan to have the whole engine bay black for low maintenance

The old dynaflow 2 speed trans will go, they are a shorty box, but 58 - 64 B bodies all shared the same x frame. The TH350 is a direct bolt in, only challenge is need to shorten then front shaft (it's a 2 piece driveshaft) by about 3 inches, while doing this will replace the centre bearing and will also upgrade to a slip yoke telescoping rear shaft also, given it's bagged, this will result in less pressure on the centre bearing with height changes

I'll drive with carby for a while then upgrade to a retrotek bolt on efi later or an ez efi, going to use a piston based mechanical fuel pump with a one way valve and deadhead so no return line, but that will follow

So now it's basically
Sbc and th350 from eagle
Shortened tail shaft
Au radiator and twin thermos
Electric windows
Tidy up the bay and paint black


Arrrgghhhh, nooooo!!
Make sure you keep the Nailhead somewhere safe so when you come to your senses you can undo the sacrilege.

Nothing more dissapointing than a really cool looking Buick, popping the hood to uncover another sbc 350....boring.

EAT-30T
02-07-2012, 05:06 PM
Trans swap means all sorts of frame modification to fit a later model trans up to an LS, all in all just far easier going SBC + TH350 with bolt on injection

Or you could just LSx + TH350/400

That is what I'd be doing, with a reasonable diff ratio it would be fine.

LSx motors are just too good value to be ignored.. I honestly think you'd spend a lot more on putting EFI on an SBC.



Or Chris... you could be totally bad ass and put a crate LS7 in it :o

Anchor
02-07-2012, 06:35 PM
Bring over an Iron 6.0 and auto. Can be found for $1500 with full loom and low km. Some bloke in bris charges $220 + GST to bring in engines.

Will make more power, be more reliable and better on fuel than a modded 350..

torino71martin
02-07-2012, 06:53 PM
Bring over an Iron 6.0 and auto. Can be found for $1500 with full loom and low km. Some bloke in bris charges $220 + GST to bring in engines.

Will make more power, be more reliable and better on fuel than a modded 350..

Just curious Jeri...Who is it that brings engines in from the U.S for $220,sounds pretty good!!

Anchor
02-07-2012, 07:23 PM
Just curious Jeri...Who is it that brings engines in from the U.S for $220,sounds pretty good!!

It's around that mark. Not 100%. This is the bloke. Chevval recommended him.

http://www.usmuscle.com.au/Forum/showthread.php?t=8634

YenkoSC
02-07-2012, 10:47 PM
Or you could just LSx + TH350/400

That is what I'd be doing, with a reasonable diff ratio it would be fine.



That's what I was thinking too. You can then have a modern, driveable and reasonably economic motor for cheap. Even so, the SBC plans sound good :)

18htan
13-07-2012, 12:29 AM
LS something with a 200r4 (same size or close to te same as a t350) Cheap realiable injection and a 4 speed for daily duties.

By the way... Your a prick!

cluxford
13-07-2012, 05:57 AM
LS something with a 200r4 (same size or close to te same as a t350) Cheap realiable injection and a 4 speed for daily duties.

By the way... Your a prick!

That's the best thing anyone has said to me today but it's only 6am :)

Rs 496
13-07-2012, 07:38 AM
-when he sobers up in europe some where when he wakes up in some strange girls room .

Welcome back mate i would still like an answer on the above. How was your trip got the bug to go back.








Hilly

18htan
13-07-2012, 11:34 AM
I am back home and sober thanks Hilly...

Chris, a quick google shows the 200r4 practically the same size as the th350. http://www.maliburacing.com/auto_tranny_id.htm

Have a chat to Lonnie at Extreme Automatics in Cincinnati.

The 200r4 can full throttle shift into 4th. The th700 cannot. Now put a ls in this beast and don't mess around! Although not sure how often you would be doing a full throttle shift into 4th. Either way the 4 speed will match your daily driver requirements perfectly.

cluxford
16-07-2012, 05:50 PM
I'll have the keys in 3 weeks. Lands in 2, allowing 1 week for customs

The 65
16-07-2012, 06:04 PM
Getting exciting, we need a Buick sub branch :D:D:D

BlackoutSteve
16-07-2012, 06:17 PM
Arrrgghhhh, nooooo!!
Make sure you keep the Nailhead somewhere safe so when you come to your senses you can undo the sacrilege.

Nothing more dissapointing than a really cool looking Buick, popping the hood to uncover another sbc 350....boring.

Gotta agree there.. Chevy engines in non-Chevy cars indicate the builder just didn't try hard enough.. Way too easy. :)
Any chance you can have the nailhead nicely rebuilt and then bolt injection onto it? Thought that would be easier than the mods to make a SBC or LS fit.
A modified throttle body or the OE or Edelbrock 4bbl manifold with aftermarket TBI..?

cluxford
16-07-2012, 06:35 PM
Gotta agree there.. Chevy engines in non-Chevy cars indicate the builder just didn't try hard enough.. Way too easy. :)
Any chance you can have the nailhead nicely rebuilt and then bolt injection onto it? Thought that would be easier than the mods to make a SBC or LS fit.
A modified throttle body or the OE or Edelbrock 4bbl manifold with aftermarket TBI..?

Steve yeah I couldn't agree more, I did seriously contemplate all the above and have killed many many many hours researching it.

It's a daily and I have no alternative (I can't drive the Camaro to work and back daily, it's 78 K's each way...that's a tank each way).

So I need something easily fixed if broken.

Here's some info (I know Steve OE rules and was meant for hundred's of thousands of miles of wear and tear).
- 2 BBl intake. There are 4 BBL's, but they come on to the market very very rarely. No aftermarket for these, even specialist Buick aftermarket shops don't stock / make manifolds for the 364. There is only 1 company that does a 2BBL TBI, it looks OK but not highly used and not much info on the web about them. I did talk to them at length over the phone
- to rebuild a 364, needs some knowledge, not a lot out here
- Dynaflow's have a tendency to roll along fine then stop (from what I've read)

Could I make it work, absolutely. Have to use all existing parts and get my hands on a 4BBL intake, not hard, but no easy either.

To drop in a SBC, all I need to do is:
1. Buy new mounts (already bought and on the way over...cost $36)
2. Buy the SBC and TH350 - Eagles turn key everything literally everything for circa $7500 - $8K
3. Shorten the tailshaft by 3" ($600 ships in 6 days from US, company that specifically does these for the low rider crowd for X framed cars)
Reason the X Frame is identical to that in a 61-64 Impala

That's it....

But i will be in addition be:
- add a new radiator and thermos
- TBI
- dual exhausts (bought a pair of ram horns from Adelaide off Gumtree for $100 at my door - found out ram horns are perfect for clearing the stock steering on a Buick).
- Oh and adding an Accuair controller also

YenkoSC
16-07-2012, 07:01 PM
Seems fairly simple for the SBC conversion then. I can see why you wouldnt bother with the nailhead.

BuickGSX455
17-07-2012, 10:57 AM
Can't find one of these?

http://www.centervilleautorepair.com/364%20intake.jpg

Tried here?

http://www.centervilleautorepair.com/BuickParts1.html

chevguy
17-07-2012, 11:28 AM
There's a reason why there's so many small blocks in everything. They are relatively cheap,reliable and parts fall out of trees. When you want a bonafide daily driver the only reason to look under the bonnet is to check the oil and water. If you wanted to show it,sure the Buick would be better but for what Chris is chasing this car primarily for, the chev would be hard to beat.It would be sooo easy to get carried away with a car this cool and end up with a car that wouldn`t fit what it was bought for.

BuickGSX455
17-07-2012, 12:29 PM
A relatively standard build Nailhead would not be that expensive or difficult. Bolt on go-fast bits are rare, sure but why is that necessary for a daily driver.
Might be nothing wrong with all of the mechanicals currently in it!
Might run without serious maintenance for another 100000 miles.

The car is cool and thats the BIG problem, puting a SBC in it is just, plain, everyday, to all sane readers, WRONG.

cluxford
17-07-2012, 12:59 PM
Can't find one of these?

http://www.centervilleautorepair.com/364%20intake.jpg

Tried here?

http://www.centervilleautorepair.com/BuickParts1.html

Been all over that and many other Buick specialist parts stores. 401 and 425 Nailhead stuff in abundance. 364...hens teeth, including manifolds. 364's are a stand alone motor:
1. dimensions
2. Nailhead

But keep em coming....if I can find a way I'd like to see if I can keep the Nailhead, but I need reliability and easy parts replacement if something breaks....

YenkoSC
17-07-2012, 01:23 PM
Easy parts replacement, as mentioned before, will be the main killer for retaining the nailhead. I would keep it in storage and if ever the car becomes just a weekender, the nailhead could go back in (after a rebuild of course)

BuickGSX455
17-07-2012, 02:22 PM
I just can't accept that a reliable 364 can't be built for daily use, they are an excellent, well respected, torquey motor without big known issues. They just truck-on with few worries.
If you were pushing for extra ponies, I would understand moving away from the 364 as bolt-ons are rare but standard parts are not.

This guy has a lot of what you need to do a rebuild or refresh.
Tom Telesco
Classic and Muscle Automotive
465 Glenbrook Rd
Stamford, CT 06906-1820
Day Phone 203-324-6045 ET

The Dynaflow is equally reliable and I have a buick Auto specialist I can put you onto if necessary here in Vic. What he doesn't know about Dynaflows isn't known by anyone.

I just eBay'd "Buick 364" and there is sh1t loads of engine stuff there, no 4 barrel inlets but just about everything else you could ever break is readily available. Ok the stuff is not in Australia but shipping from the US can be very quick.


As a last resort I give you permission to drop a 401 or 425 in it. :)

RAW454
17-07-2012, 05:14 PM
There's a reason why there's so many small blocks in everything. They are relatively cheap,reliable and parts fall out of trees. When you want a bonafide daily driver the only reason to look under the bonnet is to check the oil and water. If you wanted to show it,sure the Buick would be better but for what Chris is chasing this car primarily for, the chev would be hard to beat.It would be sooo easy to get carried away with a car this cool and end up with a car that wouldn`t fit what it was bought for.Can i just say, bloody well said. We'd all like to see something this sweet hold onto originality where possible, but the bottom line is that Chris doesn't do things by half (especially on the research front). And to have the gonads to go where so many of us wish, with a genuine (big mile) daily-commuter that makes your jaw drop, means that the repeatedly-mentioned desire for Corolla-esque reliability and immediate parts access is plain critical.

If the Nailhead was being thrown in the scrap, different story. If the ride was primarily for hood-up show outings, different story. If there was complete confidence in all the factors mentioned, different story.

We hear you Chris. If a Buick engine solution is available to suit your needs, why wouldn't you! And brilliant having great expert-support from Colin. But lets not allow this discussion direction to detract from the amazing experience of owning your dream daily and the meant-to-be story behind it.

Best of luck with everything, including easy import transition.

67TT502
17-07-2012, 05:48 PM
we have a new Dentist

BMF1968
17-07-2012, 06:47 PM
I think you should put this into it , to retain its heritage and keep the Buick purists happy.

Their available in any VN onwards commodore.:D:D

15726

BlackoutSteve
17-07-2012, 07:18 PM
At least get the supercharged V6.. ;)

YenkoSC
17-07-2012, 08:46 PM
Lmao don't turn it into a mang machine. It's WAY cooler than that.

BuickGSX455
18-07-2012, 12:00 PM
After reading Deano's voice of reason I'm going to back off, last thing I wanted to do was make life hard for Chris. Having another gorgeous Buick out and about on a regular basis even with a (shudder) SBC in it is much better than him buying an Impala or some modern POS.
I will keep my eyes out for 364 info in case something pops up.

Good luck Chris, I hope you get to live the dream regardless of the engine that gets you there.

BlackoutSteve
18-07-2012, 06:24 PM
Pardon me for considering ideas but..
How about the standard OE untouched 2bbl 364 Nailhead manifold with Holley's Avenger Throttle Body2BBL EFI (http://www.holley.com/550-200.asp) on it? They support 275hp which is plenty for a cruiser and easy with EFI, and a modern cam grind.. (2BBLs were 250hp from factory, so you've got 25hp to gain.. :p)

http://www.holley.com/data/products/pictures/mediumAvenger2bbl.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BUICK-NAILHEAD-364-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-2-BARREL-1961-117-878-GOOD-SHAPE-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZHJEME-nGtZjckBP)ozj6yfw~~60_12.JPG this 2bbl on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUICK-NAILHEAD-364-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-2-BARREL-1961-117-878-GOOD-SHAPE-/251102309108?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D689404712855717567%26pid%3D 100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26)


or..
If you didn't want to hold out for a factory 4BBL, I would think with a bit of machining, a 4150 flange could be fitted to a $50 donor 2BBL, -like the one above, with relative ease.. (Alum flange off any junked donor -or simply an alum carb spacer, and machined to bolt-on to cast iron with O-ring or gasket.. -Looks like there's plenty of room.)
..and then perhaps MSD's Atomic EFI (http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/) or one of Holley's 4BBL Avenger EFI kits (http://www.holley.com/types/Avenger%20EFI%20-%204%20BBL%20TBI%20Systems.asp)..

http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedImages/MSDIgnitioncom/AtomicEFI_a.jpg

I wonder what this is exactly.. need to enquire.
http://www.taperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TA%5F3556

I would imagine a rebuild to be fairly easy.. A lot of parts show up on eBay.. bearings, gaskets, cams, lifters, cranks etc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=364+nailhead&_sacat=0).. and anything else can usually be used from other engines if specific-364 parts aren't in catalogs.

Nutting out this sh!t is half the fun. ;)

Food for thought, and thinking music in my sig. :D

It would be sooo cool. :cool:

EAT-30T
18-07-2012, 07:05 PM
That could work ^^

EA falcons ran TBI back in the days and I still see those cars running around... Can't be too bad?

cluxford
18-07-2012, 09:32 PM
After reading Deano's voice of reason I'm going to back off, last thing I wanted to do was make life hard for Chris. Having another gorgeous Buick out and about on a regular basis even with a (shudder) SBC in it is much better than him buying an Impala or some modern POS.
I will keep my eyes out for 364 info in case something pops up.

Good luck Chris, I hope you get to live the dream regardless of the engine that gets you there.

Colin all good mate. I know you are a purest at heart and seriously I'd love to keep this all Buick, just being practical. But I'm not 100% on the SBC yet....

The dynaflow I'm good with, it's more the ****ty old 2bbl that worries me and radiator, also 51 year old wiring...

Car has done 49000 miles in 51 years...with me it wil be doing 800 to 900 kms per week, circa 40000 ks per year. On already aged 51 year old parts...

BlackoutSteve
18-07-2012, 09:40 PM
51 year old wiring and it still drives.. Now that's reliability! ;)

Why is the radiator worrying you?

cluxford
18-07-2012, 09:44 PM
Pardon me for considering ideas but..
How about the standard OE untouched 2bbl 364 Nailhead manifold with Holley's Avenger Throttle Body2BBL EFI (http://www.holley.com/550-200.asp) on it? They support 275hp which is plenty for a cruiser and easy with EFI, and a modern cam grind.. (2BBLs were 250hp from factory, so you've got 25hp to gain.. :p)

http://www.holley.com/data/products/pictures/mediumAvenger2bbl.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BUICK-NAILHEAD-364-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-2-BARREL-1961-117-878-GOOD-SHAPE-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZHJEME-nGtZjckBP)ozj6yfw~~60_12.JPG this 2bbl on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUICK-NAILHEAD-364-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-2-BARREL-1961-117-878-GOOD-SHAPE-/251102309108?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D689404712855717567%26pid%3D 100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26)


or..
If you didn't want to hold out for a factory 4BBL, I would think with a bit of machining, a 4150 flange could be fitted to a $50 donor 2BBL, -like the one above, with relative ease.. (Alum flange off any junked donor -or simply an alum carb spacer, and machined to bolt-on to cast iron with O-ring or gasket.. -Looks like there's plenty of room.)
..and then perhaps MSD's Atomic EFI (http://www.msdignition.com/products/atomic/) or one of Holley's 4BBL Avenger EFI kits (http://www.holley.com/types/Avenger%20EFI%20-%204%20BBL%20TBI%20Systems.asp)..

http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedImages/MSDIgnitioncom/AtomicEFI_a.jpg

I wonder what this is exactly.. need to enquire.
http://www.taperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=TA%5F3556

I would imagine a rebuild to be fairly easy.. A lot of parts show up on eBay.. bearings, gaskets, cams, lifters, cranks etc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=364+nailhead&_sacat=0).. and anything else can usually be used from other engines if specific-364 parts aren't in catalogs.

Nutting out this sh!t is half the fun. ;)

Food for thought, and thinking music in my sig. :D

It would be sooo cool. :cool:

Thanks Steve yeah AFI have a 2bbl one and spent plenty of time on phone with him all good it would work, didn't realized the avenger also came in 2bbl form but did look at them. There are also 2bbl to 4bbl adaptors. Found one place that machines them. Look ok

Part of the reason I'd prefer TBI on a small block is that with TBI you need a return line, no aftermarket tanks for these things so that means drop the tank, need electric fuel pump in tank preferred so lots of work there, or run external but still need to drop the tank to plumb a return

However with an SBCi can run a piston based mechanical pump with a one way valve between the pump and Throtle body that will ensure easy start with minimal cranking and deadhead it. No retun line or electric pump whine. They only make these piston based pumps for guess what....SBCs

Again could I make this work ....sure.

But is it all too hard for what I want...in my view yep

Reality is I as I'm sure you've all figured out;
it's a daily but won't be forever within 2-3 years it will come off for a massive build
You know I love heavily customed. I already have the plan in my head, like all custom builds there is rarely anything massively unique that hasnt been done before but I have one thing I want to do I've never seen done...ever...

For that build it may get a nailhead but it won't be a 364. It will be a 401 or a 425

As said keep the ideas coming but I have researched the 364s. Could be done but....

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 PM ----------

51 year old wiring and it still drives.. Now that's reliability! ;)

Why is the radiator worrying you?

I sit on the south eastern in ****ty traffic for over an hour each day...no issue winter, but summer....hmmm. These things came with no shroud, no aftermarket one for em and I do not have the equipment in my garage to make one, if I were to keep the rad it would need one

But again for ease, au with twin thermos. I love what I have in the Camaro. They rock !

BlackoutSteve
18-07-2012, 09:59 PM
There are pumps that don't need return lines, or be mounted in the tank, that will feed EFI.. From the briefn Google & read, I think you can send fuel back to the inlet side of this Holley pump, and not back to the tank..
http://www.holley.com/12-927.asp

Just food.. :)

Radiator will be fine.. A basic shroud and mechanical fan will keep it cool. You're not making gobs of power with a mountain of cubic inches. You could easily recore something big if you had to.

Cogburn
18-07-2012, 10:22 PM
I'm in the middle of installing tuned port injection on the SBC in my 1970 Camaro. I used a Tanks Inc Universal in tank pump. I have average mechanical skills and I managed to install it in an afternoon at home. It comes with a Walbro pump, a reservoir, and you can cut to suit different depth tanks.

I dropped the tank, drained it, and then washed it out with water and detergent.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/545136_4294941330775_646152054_n.jpg

The best spot for the pump was here.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394695_4294945890889_1992713293_n.jpg

I hooked the tank up to a shop vac so there were no vapours when I cut the hole for the pump with a jigsaw.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/282629_4294952811062_1053997604_n.jpg

Hole all done and pump assembled.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/521955_4294974811612_109586696_n.jpg

Pump screwed in place. I had to use a hammer and dolly to flatten out the bracing that ran through the hole.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396635_4294976211647_1715100449_n.jpg

Anchor
18-07-2012, 10:23 PM
Sheesh, that all sounds like so much work. Buy a VY commo wreck for a couple k. Steal the LS1, auto, radiator, etc etc. Bam. Reliable daily. Probably about the same amount of headfcuk.

66FAIRLANE
19-07-2012, 08:40 AM
Surely Nailheads dragged people thousands of miles across a continent, on a daily basis, reliably for many years. If its got a mild cam and a good condition factory carb with a proper functioning choke then put a spare water pump and fuel pump in the shed, suck it up and drive the Nail. What could go wrong?:D

As an aside my 67 with stock 289, factory 2 barrel, electronic ignition, 3.00 gears and stock converter gets excellent milage. Easily good enough for a daily. Possibly better than my BA Fairmont.

Don't tear out its soul.

Nev68
19-07-2012, 12:57 PM
Sheesh, that all sounds like so much work. Buy a VY commo wreck for a couple k. Steal the LS1, auto, radiator, etc etc. Bam. Reliable daily. Probably about the same amount of headfcuk.

Can you please point me in the direction of a complete / wrecked VY with LS1 for a couple K:)

67TT502
19-07-2012, 01:09 PM
Can you please point me in the direction of a complete / wrecked VY with LS1 for a couple K:)

yeah me too.....

Anchor
19-07-2012, 02:26 PM
I guess i'm cheating... Just picked up a complete mint 99 WH LS1 stato with 160km for $2500. Gotta love having first pick at the trades at work.

Frank351
19-07-2012, 03:06 PM
Driven my 64 Galaxie to work a bit.

Original 289 and C4. I suppose being a 289 there is no problem for parts, but so far its never let me down. Can run a bit hot in summer. Luckily I finish work @ 3:00pm so not in the peak rush hour ie. no bumper-to-bumper.

But 800+kms a week ... dunno about that.

No power-steering, no air , no fan shroud. No problem !

Only changed the fuel pump so far as I couldn't find the original ones with the filter screwed onto the bottom for a reasonable price.

Either way, it's a way cool ride.

Cheers,
Frank

cluxford
20-07-2012, 07:50 AM
Thanks for all the input gents, this is like being at work. I run a 3,000 person business with an executive team of 12. Those 12 never seem to agree on anything :)

My wife has suggested I sell it and buy a Prius !!! Not while my arse is pointing to the ground

Put simply, while I'd love to stay with the Nailhead, I won't. I literally can't be without a car any day and I am massively time poor. So SBC it is

364 Nailhead will get sold as even if I do take it off the road and later decide showtime for it, I will update to a 425 Nailhead anyway.

With literally no panel spared customisation on the Camaro, and the long term plans I have for the Buick, I don't think anyone will be surprised that I'm not losing sleep over ripping the Nailhead.

So lets put this one to bed. ;)

I'll keep the updates flowing on my now Buick / Chev "Hybrid" (that will make the wife happy).

BuickGSX455
20-07-2012, 09:45 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7f4qeL2wW1qb44sr.gif
:)

rs/ss 68 camaro
27-07-2012, 05:08 PM
hey chris this is actually a question regarding the camaro

how did they setup your front and rear screens
i have seen and thought about buying the bigger sreens from the states but cost damage hmmm might be easier to fill it my self

RAW454
27-07-2012, 05:31 PM
Glenn, not sure if this helps: http://www.usmuscle.com.au/Forum/showthread.php?t=115&page=38

rs/ss 68 camaro
27-07-2012, 06:55 PM
thanks deano seen the pics like to know how they did it i beleive it still used standard screens

skyper
27-07-2012, 07:28 PM
thanks deano seen the pics like to know how they did it i beleive it still used standard screens

glenn this is what im doing, this is just rubber that fits on to any moden car, my commerodore has it,windscreen mobs have heaps of different types, im just going to find one that does the job, it glues to the sreen.....criss's may be one made for camaro"by a aftermarket mob, they do sell them......he might tell aswhich mob it is

rs/ss 68 camaro
27-07-2012, 08:07 PM
cool i will have a look around

GM NUT
27-07-2012, 08:31 PM
SBC all the way!!
Can't beat em.
Except with a BBC.

cluxford
28-07-2012, 01:26 AM
thanks deano seen the pics like to know how they did it i beleive it still used standard screens

Glenn,

Standard screen. We welded a small bead at the bottom of the frame to "fill the gap", nothing special quick job, that would normally be filled by the chrome mould, and then yeah just used a standard current windscreen rubber and glued the screen in per normal

cluxford
31-07-2012, 10:41 PM
Just ordered.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/slmmed.png

She gets unloaded from the container on Sat this weekend

68cmaro
31-07-2012, 11:10 PM
Looks the goods Chris suit the car to a tee. Bet you are chafing at the bit for the car to arrive.

Cheers CHRIS

rodent
19-08-2012, 08:21 PM
Just ordered.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/slmmed.png

She gets unloaded from the container on Sat this weekend


Did I miss something in the last fortnight :confused:

What's going on with this puppy Chris :confused:

cluxford
19-08-2012, 08:23 PM
It's on the ground, just starting readiness for rego....haven't seen it myself yet, too busy with work. Engine and Trans gets delivered tomorrow

guffer
19-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Is it at Nashville with Peter ?

YenkoSC
19-08-2012, 09:03 PM
Awesome plates. Looks like things are starting to come together

cluxford
20-08-2012, 07:28 AM
Is it at Nashville with Peter ?

yep

69stang
23-08-2012, 06:43 PM
So Chris who did you import your car with ???
Have you seen it in the flesh yet??

cluxford
23-08-2012, 08:18 PM
It came in with Nashville Motors in Lilydale. Haven't seen it in the flesh yet. Way to busy at work....will get to it in a couple of weeks as off to Perth shortly for all of next week

cluxford
28-08-2012, 06:15 PM
So Ross Hughes (lots of corvette's and others for those in Vic he has the Grand Sport), saw my car today....I haven't even seen it yet !!!!! Did tell him it take it for a drive and video it but don't think he had the time to....

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/A102E90B-44BF-48E8-A268-5D1D92E36322-466-000000CF0779FA85.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/E90A1A90-9CE4-4BEF-B500-AAE7A6881034-466-000000CF096E8CE9.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/52494741-F8EE-4D8D-9985-2A72C7751FC0-466-000000CF0BBDBBF2.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/719EFFDD-59C8-48C0-B183-A4515D37E36F-466-000000CF0AEFB1CA.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/A801B5E3-B2C9-4A98-BD38-772C01C9B9E0-466-000000CF0DE5C78E.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Buick/953FE42B-3813-405F-B557-8C98909D8D3D-466-000000CF152331A3.jpg

chevval
28-08-2012, 06:16 PM
Xmas is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The 65
28-08-2012, 07:05 PM
It looks fantastic, well done.

BIG 63
28-08-2012, 07:29 PM
Looks sweet,,,,,,and big ! :D

whitey27
28-08-2012, 07:42 PM
Awesome.

Can't wait to se it up close!!

68cmaro
29-08-2012, 10:45 AM
It came in with Nashville Motors in Lilydale. Haven't seen it in the flesh yet. Way to busy at work....will get to it in a couple of weeks as off to Perth shortly for all of next week

Chris, give me a call while you are in Perth if you get any down time

Nev68
29-08-2012, 01:00 PM
Glad to see the "bubble" has hit Aussie soil.
Those photos are just a reminder for you I suppose.
It's a good looking unit. :)

cluxford
29-08-2012, 01:24 PM
Chris, give me a call while you are in Perth if you get any down time

Thanks for the offer Chris but doubt will have any. Back to back in client meetings and flying out now tomorrow

1968SS
29-08-2012, 07:07 PM
Sweet looking ride Chris, hope to see it in the flesh soon.

Cheers Mark

guffer
29-08-2012, 09:25 PM
I called in there today and checked it out, very tidy Chris looks great
who you getting to do the LS conversion ?

cluxford
29-08-2012, 09:58 PM
I called in there today and checked it out, very tidy Chris looks great
who you getting to do the LS conversion ?

Shane, mate you shoulda taken it for a drive....still haven't seen it in the flesh myself yet...but hope to this weekend

Not doing LS, too much work, I can bolt a SBC in with hardly any effort, so getting a SBC + TH350, already ordered, painted (all black...no chrome) and at Stylerod waiting to get dropped in, will add EFI later

I'm looking to have it on the road in a few weeks

lazy69
29-08-2012, 10:19 PM
That looks sweet in those pics. I would love that as my daily instead of my old commodore ute

guffer
29-08-2012, 10:21 PM
Shane, mate you shoulda taken it for a drive....still haven't seen it in the flesh myself yet...but hope to this weekend

Not doing LS, too much work, I can bolt a SBC in with hardly any effort, so getting a SBC + TH350, already ordered, painted (all black...no chrome) and at Stylerod waiting to get dropped in, will add EFI later

I'm looking to have it on the road in a few weeks

would love to take it out, but i dont do that un-invited;)
if its still there on monday i will take it out, you let Peter/Luke know :)
or i can take to Stylerod for you

cluxford
31-08-2012, 08:54 PM
Electric windows arrived today.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/ECC76703-48CE-4014-8A76-0CDFE214918D-659-0000013E73B3DB4D.jpg

Can only get bolt in for front windows not rears so they will stay manual

cluxford
03-09-2012, 08:08 PM
So during the shirt drive today. I gave it a bit if stick. Aside from the billows of smoke that Shane told me about after a few secs it started making this weird buzzing sound. While at the lights I noticed a little wheel on the left hand side of the dash and it scrolls a number going up in 10s. A bit of google research turns out the bloody thing has a speed alert / warning. It was set a 50 when I gave it a bit. So the buzzing was telling me if was over 50mph. Wow 1961 speed alerts.... Far out

Rs 496
03-09-2012, 08:16 PM
Chris,


Will have to catch up for lunch and come and check it out.


How is your calander looking for the
14th sept

Hilly

guffer
03-09-2012, 08:29 PM
So during the shirt drive today. I gave it a bit if stick. Aside from the billows of smoke that Shane told me about after a few secs it started making this weird buzzing sound. While at the lights I noticed a little wheel on the left hand side of the dash and it scrolls a number going up in 10s. A bit of google research turns out the bloody thing has a speed alert / warning. It was set a 50 when I gave it a bit. So the buzzing was telling me if was over 50mph. Wow 1961 speed alerts.... Far out

You may be surprised at some of the technology GM had in cars in the 50's and 60's, particularly in Cadillacs, what amazes me is that this stuff still works

BTW Chris i took that Nova for a spin that Peter has for sale, 980hp blown BBC in a '67 nova mmmmm, got me thinking :D

BlackoutSteve
03-09-2012, 08:35 PM
Maybe Peter want a Caddy. ;)
What year is the Nova?

guffer
03-09-2012, 08:51 PM
What year is the Nova?

'67

cluxford
03-09-2012, 09:43 PM
You may be surprised at some of the technology GM had in cars in the 50's and 60's, particularly in Cadillacs, what amazes me is that this stuff still works

BTW Chris i took that Nova for a spin that Peter has for sale, 980hp blown BBC in a '67 nova mmmmm, got me thinking :D

Gees Shane that's not the best way to avoid temptation. It's one hellava car

guffer
03-09-2012, 10:13 PM
Gees Shane that's not the best way to avoid temptation. It's one hellava car

At this stage in my life i'm bang up for temptation :D
stay tuned ;)

cluxford
24-09-2012, 05:58 PM
Went and saw progress today, she's 1 electric window switch from going for rego. Should happen later this week early next.

Then motor comes out and new one goes in (sitting next to the car waiting).

Was there for about 45 mins and completely forgot to take a pic

Did lay it on the frame though....damn it looks good on the deck and literally lays frame (lowrider speak for those not in the know)....I mean the frame hits the concrete......

Can't wait now.....

YenkoSC
24-09-2012, 07:38 PM
Bet you are keen to cruise it now. Make sure to get lots of pics :D

Rs 496
01-10-2012, 09:25 PM
Chris any updates been awhile

cluxford
02-10-2012, 07:56 AM
Chris any updates been awhile

Mark, sorry been overseas.

OK, so had to replace 2 body mounts for rego, a headlight and some other bits and pieces, they are all done and will be registered on Thu this week.

Then we'll do the engine swap.

So should have it ready to roll say next 3-4 weeks

68ls1
02-10-2012, 04:21 PM
Chris

What about this :D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buick-Nailhead-364-Offehauser-3x2-Intake-/130773203273?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie s&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e72b0b949

with this

17079


Found here, http://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/products.htm

cluxford
02-10-2012, 05:21 PM
SBC is bought and will be installed...If I ever do put a nailhead back in it it will be a 401 or a 425 as they are way way more aftermarket parts friendly than the lowly orphan that is the 364 that I have

Rs 496
03-10-2012, 09:10 PM
Chris,

Sounds good will give you a call when ready catch up for lunch and have a look at the beast.


Hilly

RAW454
31-01-2013, 08:54 PM
Any updates last few months Chris? Still no (local) pic off the truck? :)

cluxford
31-01-2013, 09:17 PM
OK yeah sorry...when did I last post...sh1t Oct.

Ok lots happened sine then.

So it got dropped up to Stylerod in Sep. To get a roady...


For a "no rust" advertised car...it's got a bit, nothing drastic but a bit. Were advised (not by Styelrod but by guys doing roady) it needed rear body mounts replaced (rusted out) and one new headlight that didn't work. So they did that,off it went....

Then get told need rust cut out of bottom of front guards (not structural) ...so that gets done

Now Oct

Try to send it back for roady...

Guys overseas, only he can do it now at this stage, he's away for 8 weeks...argh. car sits for 8 weeks gathering dust

2 weeks before Xmas he gets back, we send it in, knocks it back on ball joints ARGH....why not tell us that 8 Fn weeks ago

rush to get em done before Xmas, manage to do it, get it approved, gets registered 2 days before Xmas

Stylerod go on leave (shut down) till 14th Jan.

They get back 14th jan and get cracking...

Nailhead ripped out, SBC and TH350 already in. Like everything never straight forward. Pan hits drag link, fuel pump hits chassis. So now electric pump, and mods to clear the drag link.
So much for X Frames being completely standard across GM B bodies....everyone in US said straight forward swap, maybe we used the wrong mounts ???? Oh well all good it's in now.
Seat belts added
this week it's getting tailshaft shortened, new exhaust and new rad / thermos

They should be in next week at latest and no reason I won't have it on the road next 2-3 weeks.

here's a pic mid Dec with the front off

we also moved the tank to top of the boot instead of the wheel tub....

PS - when the bags dumped the frame sits on the ground (literally)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/BD6E9B97-2AAF-4763-92D6-F629D83CEF67-4664-000009DF2AF0779A.jpg

RAW454
31-01-2013, 09:27 PM
Wow. So not quite daily duties yet, eh. Good luck with finishing it all soon. Am sure will be sweet :) No more commuting in SMOOVE though?

cluxford
31-01-2013, 09:35 PM
Oh I fully expect SMOVE will still go to the office...except I resigned from my job on Dec 31st, have 12 weeks notice so will finish up mid/late Mar. Starting up 3 new small (now - hopefully huge later) innovation/technology start ups. be good to be working for myself again...

69SS
01-02-2013, 12:52 AM
Nothing is ever straight forward in this "hobby" of ours is it...

Looks like you have been through quite few hurdles Chris, but not long now until you have a really awesome daily!! -looking forward to the next update!

rodent
01-02-2013, 04:46 AM
No good Chris :( Looks like a typical yank build though, all blinged up on the outside.......turd like underneath :rolleyes:
Good luck with it, I hope you don't find too much more heartache.

Rs 496
01-02-2013, 04:53 PM
Oh I fully expect SMOVE will still go to the office...except I resigned from my job on Dec 31st, have 12 weeks notice so will finish up mid/late Mar. Starting up 3 new small (now - hopefully huge later) innovation/technology start ups. be good to be working for myself again...

WOW I thought you like where you where working.

Do you have a chance to catch up for lunch later next week.

Hilly

cluxford
01-02-2013, 05:04 PM
WOW I thought you like where you where working.

Do you have a chance to catch up for lunch later next week.

Hilly

I did until 120 days ago when it all went pear shaped (greedy shareholders). All good locally we are on fire 300% increase in EBITDA in under 2 years. But globally place is a shambles....

travelling till the 14th, good 14th or 15th....

L88racer
01-02-2013, 07:36 PM
Hi Chris
Luv the car it's a very cool shape.
You mentioned you fitted seat belts, did you fit 3 point belts? If you did are they attached at the roof or somewhere else. Would appreciate a photo if they are 3 point.
Thanks
Rowan

cluxford
01-02-2013, 07:39 PM
Rowan...Stylerod doing it all.

Yep 3 point and nope not on the roof (not like the Camaro, it has 3 points and we welded a mounting bracket to the roof) - can take a photo of that.

On the Buick we are just mounting to the top of the pillar (where a B pillar would be but isn't).

heard all the stories of compressed spines etc in accidents but my wife is shorter than I and we did a test fit and it's less than 5 degree angle down from shoulder to mounting point on me so should be OK

haven't seen them mounted yet but will take pics

L88racer
01-02-2013, 07:47 PM
Ok thanks, that is good spot to do it on a pillerless, would like to see photo when the belts are installed.
Cheers
Rowan

Anchor
02-02-2013, 08:48 AM
That's exactly where i've been told to do it on my pillarless. Was going to do it on the 4pt cage but engineer said no due to restricting access to the rear for passengers.

Rs 496
04-02-2013, 06:38 PM
I did until 120 days ago when it all went pear shaped (greedy shareholders). All good locally we are on fire 300% increase in EBITDA in under 2 years. But globally place is a shambles....

travelling till the 14th, good 14th or 15th....



14th suits me as i am flying to indonesia on the 15th for 2 weeks.


I will send mail to calander tomorrow.



Hilly

Anchor
04-02-2013, 07:54 PM
14th suits me as i am flying to indonesia on the 15th for 2 weeks.


I will send mail to calander tomorrow.



Hilly

On Garuda Indonesia? Good luck :P I used to hate flying there all the time.

cluxford
04-02-2013, 08:06 PM
I was there a few months ago...I flew Qantas. Manila is where I'm at at the moment....

Rs 496
05-02-2013, 06:23 PM
On Garuda Indonesia? Good luck :P I used to hate flying there all the time.

Qantas and a short flight by garuda to balipaparn.






Hilly

cluxford
07-02-2013, 05:57 PM
Must be good news Thu. I am home for the weekend before flight out again Sun night.

Buick is 99% chance of being done Sat. Requires radiator to go in, wheel alignment and cam to be run in (hoping to get all that done tomorrow and pick it up Sat)

Rs 496
07-02-2013, 08:08 PM
sounds good chris look forward to seeing it.



Hilly

cluxford
16-02-2013, 09:46 AM
OK last Sat was a no go...radiator wasn't connected and Trans wouldn't shift automatically

But that is all fixed now, picking it up in a few hours....

Then start clocking up the miles, with a ton of smiles

Rs 496
16-02-2013, 10:25 AM
Where you going cruising today chris.

cluxford
16-02-2013, 01:15 PM
just drove it home, Croydon to Mt Martha, sat on 100 beautifully and never missed a beat...it's now dumped in the drive...looks awesome on it's guts

whitey27
16-02-2013, 02:15 PM
Happy days!!!

RAW454
16-02-2013, 03:31 PM
PIX Goddammit!! :D

cluxford
16-02-2013, 04:17 PM
OK, it wasn't washed when I got it (I told em I would)

So here it is washed....it's no show car, but it is cool.....

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/8F3621A5-8A09-4CCD-B927-B43A87295EE5-310-000000FCC69C82B2_zps15a5972f.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/424DA7DD-8DA2-4D16-BD9B-F7D4C27B45D2-310-000000FC608E106E_zps0711634a.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/288A79BB-4B89-445C-853D-7013AE9AE4B7-310-000000FCAD178A88_zps5b73cbac.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/0BDEA93E-0827-48E7-AB83-411C86688966-310-000000FC4F74761F_zpsdb69f64b.jpg

whitey27
16-02-2013, 04:29 PM
Good to see some pics at last

Can't help but feel sorry for Smove. Stuck in the garage feeling neglected.

The 65
16-02-2013, 04:31 PM
Very nice.

Nev68
16-02-2013, 04:31 PM
I reckon you could have called it SMOVE 2 Chris. (SLMMED is good though)
That is one tidy unit.

LS3 HQ
16-02-2013, 04:38 PM
Looks awesome Chris. Make driving to work a bit more fun thats for sure

Russ
16-02-2013, 04:44 PM
That's cool as f*ck, Clucky. Nice purchase mate.

chevguy
16-02-2013, 05:27 PM
Gotta give it to ya Chris, you definately have good taste in cars. Love it.

Rs 496
16-02-2013, 06:08 PM
What a great photo 2 big v8 beasts and a prius hybrid there as well.


Good to see your wife is doing her bit for the environment chris


Hilly

cluxford
16-02-2013, 06:47 PM
So started pulling stuff out of it:

1. Owners manual
2. Service manual
3. new car sales brochure (its a 20 page book)

Very cool....

WILD68
16-02-2013, 06:59 PM
Nice one Chris! Looks awesome

YenkoSC
16-02-2013, 07:17 PM
You are going to have a lot of fun cruising in that. Looks awesome Chris.

Intruder
16-02-2013, 07:24 PM
Great collection of cars there Chris, love the number plate on the Prius.:)

BigONova
17-02-2013, 12:42 PM
Car looks mint. Must suck having to decide what car you have to drive to car shows in camaro, Buick or the red matchbox lol. I'm just spewing that I'm still waiting for mine........

Bird
19-02-2013, 07:31 PM
Man, that is a lovely car. Can't wait for mine to hit the shoreline.