Seat belts in NSW for recent import

[tezza101]

OK, have seen a few threads close to this topic...

Am bringing in a 69 Camaro to NSW with no seat belts currently installed. Will go on to historic/club rego.

For this scenario, my understanding will need belts as it came from the factory (historic rego = pink slip only, not blue slip). This means front lap belts only.

How'd I do? What other experiences out there guys?

[USA-69Z]

Terry , i have no experience with 'club rego' but im in nsw and ive regoed 4 camaros here now with full reg, right and left hook... my current 69 had original belts onboard when purchased which could have stayed if i left it LHD, but as i had it converted it had to get current australian design rule belts. If you put belts in you will need an engineer to check them off before rego. I thought all new cars into nsw had to have a bluey ?? i could be wrong.

Gav

[tezza101]

Interesting.... retain left hook and keep belts as is eh. Anyone know if that means no rear belts is OK too?

[OldIndian]

Historic rego allows for factory belts to be used where fitted, no change required.
If for Full LHD rego.. you need to change them to an ADR approved belt.

[tezza101]

Historic rego allows for factory belts to be used where fitted, no change required.
If for Full LHD rego.. you need to change them to an ADR approved belt.

Great... even lap only belts for a post-1/1/69 car?

[anychevy]

Great... even lap only belts for a post-1/1/69 car?
Yeah, should be fine for a pink slip.
Make sure you get a paper one (at least the first time) most places are all online now.

[tezza101]

Yeah Dave, have heard that.... finding it a little tough to find a place that does anything but online exclusively... any suggestions ??

[anychevy]

Yeah Dave, have heard that.... finding it a little tough to find a place that does anything but online exclusively... any suggestions ??
I go to a little independant servo in South Turramurra, but lots of others should still have the books, you're just going to have to ask around I guess :confused:

[tezza101]

I go to a little independant servo in South Turramurra, but lots of others should still have the books, you're just going to have to ask around I guess :confused:

Yup... cheers, will look around

[68pony]

For rego the car just needs to comply with adr's of its era , so if car did not come out with seat belts then you don't have to fit them to get a blue slip, i have just regersted our 55 olds(NSW)(wifes car) no seat belts, but if you want to fit belts get it done after rego as you need a engineer's report if you fit them before rego.
cheers chris.

[anychevy]

You need seat belts for 69 on
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/pdf/04.pdf

[tezza101]

Cheers - that matches my expectations. Thanks guys!

[Russ]

You need seat belts for 69 on
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/pdf/04.pdf

Damn, My Challenger is 9 months too young - built in Sept 69.

The only way that seat belt rule doesn't apply, is if you are registering it on Club rego.

[anychevy]

Damn, My Challenger is 9 months too young - built in Sept 69.

The only way that seat belt rule doesn't apply, is if you are registering it on Club rego.
Also depends on who you know :D

[Russ]

Spill the beans ... would LOVE to get my Chally through with the standard lap belt. The factory lap sash option is yukky-poo (hangs from the roof), so the only other option is to remove the rear interior and do some cutting & welding - which = mucho bucks for an engineer to approve it.

[anychevy]

Spill the beans ... would LOVE to get my Chally through with the standard lap belt.
Put it on historic rego first, then, next year, transfer it to full. In theory it's been registered in NSW before, so no blue slip required, so I'm told.

[Russ]

ah bugger that ... that means I'd have to join an approved club, and be limited in where/when I could drive it for 12 months.

Come chrissy holidays, I hope to be doing a lap of Oz in it.

[anychevy]

ah bugger that ... that means I'd have to join an approved club, and be limited in where/when I could drive it for 12 months.

Yeah you have to join a club, but it's pretty open to when and where you can drive it.
"can be driven on club events (that means any club to me) or for maintanance"
You don't have to notify anyone, you just need an excuse in case you're pulled over (never happens, unless you're an idiot) or you have an accident.
Or you can try and find a sympathetic blue slip guy :rolleyes: good luck with that. Or put lap sash belts in it.

[tezza101]

Hang on....

69 year means belts needed in the front. Original front belts are lap. So sash not needed.

Club rego needs pink slip, which will check that original front belts are fitted, as it's a 69. So club rego means front belts are needed.

or am I smoking crack ? :cool:

[anychevy]

Hang on....
69 year means belts needed in the front. Original front belts are lap. So sash not needed.
Club rego needs pink slip, which will check that original front belts are fitted, as it's a 69. So club rego means front belts are needed.


From AMCC

O.K.guys.....
Before we all blow a head gasket over this ADR issue, let me set the records straight.
If you own a left hand drive vehicle that is 30 years or older, you can register it in NSW with only a simple blue slip. It only gets slightly more complicated if it was built after August 1972 where it has to comply with some ADR applicable to the year model.
If it is '73 model there is nothing to worry about since the yanks would have already fitted the items required by 73 ADR's.
If it is '75 model however it will require to be fitted with child restrain anchoring points. This is where engineering comes into effect because they want to make sure it is secured correctly insted of a couple of self tappers and some glue.
That applies to the rest of your seatbelts which need to be replaced with Aussie ones carrying the ADR labels. Once again requires an engineer to certify them.

If anyone wants to know more, i have the full list of ADR's at my work and more than happy to give you advice on what is required.
Call me on 02 9771 4144
Chris.

Maybe give him a call :D

[68pony]

From AMCC

O.K.guys.....
Before we all blow a head gasket over this ADR issue, let me set the records straight.
If you own a left hand drive vehicle that is 30 years or older, you can register it in NSW with only a simple blue slip. It only gets slightly more complicated if it was built after August 1972 where it has to comply with some ADR applicable to the year model.
If it is '73 model there is nothing to worry about since the yanks would have already fitted the items required by 73 ADR's.
If it is '75 model however it will require to be fitted with child restrain anchoring points. This is where engineering comes into effect because they want to make sure it is secured correctly insted of a couple of self tappers and some glue.
That applies to the rest of your seatbelts which need to be replaced with Aussie ones carrying the ADR labels. Once again requires an engineer to certify them.

If anyone wants to know more, i have the full list of ADR's at my work and more than happy to give you advice on what is required.
Call me on 02 9771 4144
Chris.

Maybe give him a call :D
The above quote with that phone number is from chris sinclair his work shop is in padstow , he organised the blue slip on my wifes 55 olds , it was so easy , he did everything from weight bridge certificate to even green slip for us , i just picked up the paper work from him went to the rta, regod it grabed the plates stuck em on and away we went, he knows everything that needs to be done as he was a rta inspector once upon a time and i highly recomend him.

[bonnevista]

Historic rego allows for factory belts to be used where fitted, no change required.
If for Full LHD rego.. you need to change them to an ADR approved belt.

My '72 LHD Pontiac was blue slipped and regoed in NSW with the original GM lap seat belts.

[71RS]

Totally agree with the above. Pre-72 you dont need to do anything, leave it as built from the factory. Go full rego and drive your car everyday when you want, no restrictions. Looks like Chris is your man

[tezza101]

Will very likely go club rego first up to save on rego & insurance costs ($300 vs $2000)

Import Approval app lodged today.... let's see how THAT goes..