Gavs 69 - a work in progress [Archive] - Page 3

zed28427

31-10-2010, 06:25 PM

today Dave and I (zz502) took the cars out for a drive around the newcastle beaches. This was my 2nd drive after my 2 year build. We took a couple of pics on the way .

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE002.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE003.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE008.jpg

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can you see my new subtle side marker lenses i installed from the US.. pretty subtle but removes the big chrome bezels which didnt suit the look i was goin for.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE001.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE007.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE016.jpg

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Daves beast looks fantastic in red.. it runs a zz502 & turbo box .
18 & 20 inch torque thrust rims

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE005.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE013.jpg

this pic shows my carbon fibre close-out panel and side support bars i just fitted ..

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROPHOTOSHOOTWIDDAVE020.jpg

That looks tough as nails Gav.....Very nice......P.S. That red thing ain't to shabby either.....beautiful...

ZZ0502

02-11-2010, 04:09 PM

We will have to do it again on the 14th December.

L88racer

02-11-2010, 09:11 PM

Looks great Gav, the stance is perfect with the size of wheels you run.

USA-69Z

02-11-2010, 10:30 PM

Looks great Gav, the stance is perfect with the size of wheels you run.

thanx Rowan, id go lower if i could but im on the limits of practicality.

blackoutsteve

03-11-2010, 01:02 AM

Any lower and you'd need smaller rims which would make it worse. I think all of the rim needs to be seen.

AUSCAMARO

03-11-2010, 05:19 PM

USA-69Z

03-11-2010, 09:03 PM

Awesome Gav and Dave....

I can't believe that shed and old house are still there... Thought they would have been demolished years ago. As for the wreck, well I thought that would have been burnt out atleast!!

scenic drive, merewether Mitch ! its still a hotspot for wedding pics...Im suprised too they havnt been vandalised or squatters arnt in there.. just arund the corner for me.

Gav

AUSCAMARO

05-11-2010, 12:20 AM

scenic drive, merewether Mitch ! its still a hotspot for wedding pics...Im suprised too they havnt been vandalised or squatters arnt in there.. just arund the corner for me.

Gav

Yeah, not far from yours at all... A mate of mine lives a couple of streets down (opposite side of road of course) from there... By the way, how's Susan Gilmore these days?

USA-69Z

05-11-2010, 01:04 AM

Yeah, not far from yours at all... A mate of mine lives a couple of streets down (opposite side of road of course) from there... By the way, how's Susan Gilmore these days?

i havnt been down on susan gilmore for ages :eek: .. still nude as far as i know?

USA-69Z

27-11-2010, 02:05 PM

69SS

27-11-2010, 02:08 PM

Pulling 1800rpms at 100km/h with a 4.33 rear and t56, purrs along just nicely. Bet your got plenty of attention on the freeway mate :)

rodent

27-11-2010, 02:46 PM

took the 69 for a long haul run to a charity car event today...

freeway run... 60ks doin 2000rpm 373 rear end , turbo 400 .. i gotta change that. slow and heaps of fuel used

what kinda revs you pullin at drivin speeds?

2600@100kph with 3.5's Gav, If you pull your 3.7's and you're going to move them, could you keep me in mind please Gav :D

blackoutsteve

27-11-2010, 04:34 PM

freeway run... 60ks doin 2000rpm 373 rear end , turbo 400 .. i gotta change that. slow and heaps of fuel used

That works out to a 23" tire diameter.. That's small!
A regular size 26" tire will bring that down to below 1800, or more importantly 3000 instead of 3380 at 100Ks.
But that's not high rpm for a car that will get off the line well. Have you been driving a Statesman or something for too long? :p

Pulling 1800rpms at 100km/h with a 4.33 rear and t56, purrs along just nicely. Bet your got plenty of attention on the freeway mate :)

Which T56? 0.62:1 or 0.50:1 OD?
(or what's your tire height? 31" or 25"?)

Mine with the 4.11s, 26" tire and the old 3500 converter was 3300-3500.. Loved it! :) Overtook at that speed like a Mother F...
Fuel economy.. Who cares? :D

L88racer

27-11-2010, 06:31 PM

I don't even know what gears are in the elcamino but its 3200 at 100kmh it chews the juice, will have to change it! I only had it on the freeway for the first time last weekend and i watched the fuel gauge move down as i was driving.

rodent

27-11-2010, 07:16 PM

L88racer

27-11-2010, 07:21 PM

Yer Jim, thats what i was thinking 3.9 or 4.1, how do you check the ratio of a single spinner centre, without taking the cover off?

rodent

27-11-2010, 08:14 PM

Yer Jim, thats what i was thinking 3.9 or 4.1, how do you check the ratio of a single spinner centre, without taking the cover off?

Revolutions of the wheel compared to tailshaft revolutions :)

L88racer

27-11-2010, 08:19 PM

Revolutions of the wheel compared to tailshaft revolutions :)

Does that only work when you have LSD and both wheels turn in the same direction. ANyway i will give a check up and see.

TUFF68

27-11-2010, 08:34 PM

Guess= 3.9's :confused:

I reckon your spot on Jim, my '57 has 3.9's and sits on 3200 at around 100km/h

USA-69Z

27-11-2010, 10:27 PM

ah ok , so im not too bad after all :o
it felt like it was revvin its clacker out at 60/70ks ..im obviously gettin soft.

Jim- re diff pull. if i change it ill let ya know. prob go an overdrive next me thinks.

69coupe

28-11-2010, 04:35 AM

1800 RPM with 3.7,s @100 kph. TKO600 gearbox

Nev68

28-11-2010, 08:38 AM

USA-69Z

28-11-2010, 11:09 AM

Have you thought about a trans with overdrive?

yeah Nev , i think thats my next move as well as an injection set-up.

SUNOCO TWIST

28-11-2010, 12:05 PM

just look at all the page's on this car.... very nice work:) she's awesome!!!

USA-69Z

28-11-2010, 01:42 PM

just look at all the page's on this car.... very nice work:) she's awesome!!!

thanx Fred , we dont always have access to all the great gear you guys have in the US off the shelf.. it takes a bit more patience but we get there in the end.
Gav:)

USA-69Z

28-11-2010, 06:27 PM

heres another question fellas regarding revs v speed v temps?

highway run at 70ks @ 2000rpm im at a steady 185/190 degrees.

if i flog it a bit more its up around 200.. hows that sound???

blackoutsteve

28-11-2010, 09:25 PM

USA-69Z

28-11-2010, 10:56 PM

When I flogged mine at speed, only the oil temp would raise because of plenty of radiator capacity and airflow. With a 180°F thermostat, water would sit on 185-190° all the time. The oil would go from ~190°F crusing to 220-230°F which is about perfect. That was also with a water/oil heat exchanger.
Trans would drop down on the highway. To about 160°F or below.

Steve , i havnt got all my temps gauged , only the basics.. so mine at those temps sounds ok ? hits 200 deg on a real floggin' but 180/190 all day long pretty much.

oil pressure on 60ish on startup and round 40/50 running & idling.

71RS

29-11-2010, 05:53 AM

Mine sits on 180 but will "spike" to 200 for 10 seconds before returning to 180. Doesnt happen often but strange. Its has a rather new big block radiator and standard fan setup.
With 35 + year old gauges I often wonder how accurate they still are or were when built new.

chevguy

29-11-2010, 06:31 AM

Steve , i havnt got all my temps gauged , only the basics.. so mine at those temps sounds ok ? hits 200 deg on a real floggin' but 180/190 all day long pretty much.

oil pressure on 60ish on startup and round 40/50 running & idling.

That`s absolutely fine.Anything under 210 is perfectly safe.Oil pressure is pretty good as well.

Nev68

29-11-2010, 10:59 AM

yeah Nev , i think thats my next move as well as an injection set-up.

Cool, I think an overdrive lets you keep the rear gear and still have some reasonable rpm's on the highway.
You've got me a bit worried about the gearing as my new 12 bolt has 3.73's and I've got a T350 trans.

USA-69Z

29-11-2010, 01:49 PM

Cool, I think an overdrive lets you keep the rear gear and still have some reasonable rpm's on the highway.
You've got me a bit worried about the gearing as my new 12 bolt has 3.73's and I've got a T350 trans.

Prob feel pretty close to what i have Nev... its definatly fun but im not too keen to do a cupla hrs on the highway:cool:

USA-69Z

26-03-2011, 02:01 PM

Been a while since ive taken the time to post here..

this is my latest challenge.. To set up up a stack crossram with new 'fast' efi technology..
Ive purchased a multifit kit from the US which is not entirely compatible but with the right research i can get it to work.
Ive also got a ricks efi tank on its way .. so the fun begins..

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/STACK004.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/sun27thfeb2010014.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROSEPT2010001.jpg

AUSCAMARO

26-03-2011, 04:31 PM

GOD DAMN..... that looks good Gav... I could look at it all day long...

USA-69Z

26-03-2011, 05:32 PM

GOD DAMN..... that looks good Gav... I could look at it all day long...

Im flyin the flag for newy mate !

Nev68

26-03-2011, 05:52 PM

Hey Gav the car is really gonna be special inside and out with the injection set up.
Looking forward to some progres reports on the induction fitting etc.

cluxford

26-03-2011, 06:35 PM

Gav, that EFI is pure auto porn..I love stacks....

And your car is seriously tough looking, you nailed colour and stance....

tonner

26-03-2011, 07:17 PM

Love it Gav, as chris said the stance is great.

Greg

L88racer

26-03-2011, 07:47 PM

Hey Gav, that manifold is magic! With the fuel inj set up well, you should get good gains in the driveability across the rev range.

USA-69Z

26-03-2011, 10:34 PM

thanx fellas' .. its a bit of a headache workin it all out for a total injection novice but im gettin a pretty good grasp of it now.
It comes down to getting the sensors placed in the right positions with good vacuum so the computor gets good strong signals. The fast kit i have coming has the harness with all the connectors fitted so once the sensors are in place its plug n play.

I think the throttle cable will be a pain with no real position for a bracket to hold the cable.

Also the manifold has 1 vacuum port for brakes so ill have to tap 3 more smaller ports for MAP, IAC and regulator vacuum.
The best part is that this manifold has a vacuum plenum underneath not like old stack injection where you had to plumb lines from each runner to a common block to get a vacuum signal . Inglese have a nice 'stack' setup with vertical trumpets but it wouldnt fit under the 69's hood.
The fuel side is pretty easy, in tank efi pump and return feed .

If anyone has expertize in efi feel free to add comments, suggestions or help along the way, as im feeling my way thru this setup.

Ill do a full install post on here with plenty of pics..

1968SS

27-03-2011, 07:47 AM

those manifolds look crazy would love one, but i decided to play with fire and put a blower on instead.....

69er

27-03-2011, 11:46 AM

As the others have said Gav beautiful - porn auto porn!
Just noticed RS taillights but no backup lights?

USA-69Z

27-03-2011, 02:20 PM

As the others have said Gav beautiful - porn auto porn!
Just noticed RS taillights but no backup lights?

yeah i had a new tailpanel put on wit the rebuild and left them off for a cleaner arse end

Nev68

27-03-2011, 02:22 PM

Also the manifold has 1 vacuum port for brakes so ill have to tap 3 more smaller ports for MAP, IAC and regulator vacuum.

Gav,
can you use a vacumm tree rather than tap new ports?

http://www.naparts.com.au/PDF/SEC13%20NAPARTS%202010%20Catalogue%20LOW-2.pdf

18htan

27-03-2011, 04:54 PM

Such a porn setup!

Nice work indeed!

AUSCAMARO

27-03-2011, 05:04 PM

Get that manifold set up Gav and you will need a set of these!!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/1cut808/4071996a6566708657ae644e212baec3_Weld_Racing_Unkno wn_Model.png

To go RACING of course...

rodent

27-03-2011, 05:50 PM

Jeezus Rolf, don't get him going on wheels again :eek:

USA-69Z

27-03-2011, 07:34 PM

**** that does look horn !

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Gav,
can you use a vacumm tree rather than tap new ports?

http://www.naparts.com.au/PDF/SEC13%20NAPARTS%202010%20Catalogue%20LOW-2.pdf

Nev , you need all seperate vacuum lines to have there own strong uninterupted signals to get to the computor for a solid tune.
It would make it easier and tidyer to run one of those but not the go.

Only 3 small holes to get drilled.

MAP sensor vacuum (manifold air pressure)
regulator vacuum (fuel reg)
IAC vacuum (idle air control)

blackoutsteve

27-03-2011, 07:53 PM

If the vacuum tree is of a good design (typical OE is fine), all ports branching off of it will see exactly the same uninterupted signal as they all access a common plenum of the vacuum tree.

http://429mustangcougarinfo.50megs.com/images/manfFitting3.jpg

http://www.holdencarparts.com.au/thumbnail.php?pic=uplimg/img_48089_a1d464802f956cdd6aa8ac15de4e91e0.jpg&w=500&sq=Y&b=Y

USA-69Z

27-03-2011, 10:19 PM

Interesting Steve , all the efi tech guys in us/oz say i have to use seperate lines from plenum .. where does that info come from..id like to read up on it a bit more.

Gav

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''The IAC requires at least 1/4 line so that enough air can be pulled in for cold start idling. Its best not to share these on the same block because of the IAC essentially being a controlled vacuum leak would potentially throw the MAP signal off.'' unquote - :confused:

69SS

28-03-2011, 12:42 AM

Sweet Gav, the evolution of your 69 has been really enspiring, love that injection set up!! Keep it coming!

blackoutsteve

28-03-2011, 04:21 AM

Gav, if you were to run one line, then T off to other sensors, that would create an issue. But if you were to fit 3 vacuum gauges of those pictured "trees", I can assure you that they would all read exactly the same.
Vacuum (or pressure) can not possibly vary a measurable over 1/2 an inch between the ports on those trees.
The OEs use them for their EFI.

Also, your manifold doesn't have a common plenum. You need to tap into one of the isolated runners. With the intake valve starting and stopping airflow at the rate of 1/2 your rpm, the vacuum signal is going to fluctuate rapidly anyway. Hopefully your sensors are able to average the pressure/vacuum signal over a short period of time (several firing stokes) and not at the resolution of the high pressure from the intake closing, then the low when it opens over and over.
Those velocity rams will give the column of incoming air some good cylinder-filling inertia. ;)

USA-69Z

28-03-2011, 07:19 AM

Nev68

28-03-2011, 12:11 PM

Steve this manifold has a common plenum running its length and has one large threaded hole in the rear for the power brakes. It also has a removable base plate for accsess . It was the reason i chose this configuration as most vertical trumpet systems that will fit under the hood dont run the plenum.

There are some vertical stack manifolds that have the plenum but tend to be a lot higher by design so i had to go crossram. dont wanna chop my hood.

Im confused with the vacuum block,, you say if i run one line and T off to the sensors wouldnt be to good but one of those blocks would deliver even pressure , isnt it essentially the same thing :confused: :)

I'd reckon if you branch off as you go down the vacuum line then you might have some "interuptions", if there is a common vacuum source it should be right.
Have a good talk with the tech heads because if you have problems later (especially when yu first fire her up) you need to be able to "tick off" all the things you did as per instructions. (and anything you did not do as per instructions)

blackoutsteve

28-03-2011, 05:44 PM

Ahh, couldn't tell with the pic. Common plenum is good. :)

Im confused with the vacuum block,, you say if i run one line and T off to the sensors wouldnt be to good but one of those blocks would deliver even pressure , isnt it essentially the same thing :confused: :)

Pretty much what Nev said. ;)
But those Tees will allow each port to see the same pressure/vacuum as each other because they all have a small, but common plenum deliberately designed into them.
Also, because there is no actual air flow to the sensors (they just need to "see" the manifold pressure/vacuum), the necessicity of individual ports tapped directly into the manifold is even less again.
It kinda sounds like your being advised to mount a super high-flow mandrel bend fitting for a pressure gauge. Advantage is nil. This isn't about flow..
If you want a fast, responsive, accurate and strong manifold reading, use at least a 1/4" id vacuum line. Don't skimp on diameter, but no need to go silly either. :)

USA-69Z

04-04-2011, 06:53 PM

RicksHotrods Stainless fuel tank is here ..

$1100 - efi tank with inbuilt pump

$400 - fedex shipping

$220 - customs clearance ! :cool:

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Gav, if you were to run one line, then T off to other sensors, that would create an issue. But if you were to fit 3 vacuum gauges of those pictured "trees", I can assure you that they would all read exactly the same.
Vacuum (or pressure) can not possibly vary a measurable over 1/2 an inch between the ports on those trees.
The OEs use them for their EFI.

Also, your manifold doesn't have a common plenum. You need to tap into one of the isolated runners. With the intake valve starting and stopping airflow at the rate of 1/2 your rpm, the vacuum signal is going to fluctuate rapidly anyway. Hopefully your sensors are able to average the pressure/vacuum signal over a short period of time (several firing stokes) and not at the resolution of the high pressure from the intake closing, then the low when it opens over and over.
Those velocity rams will give the column of incoming air some good cylinder-filling inertia. ;)

Steve after more research on this subject regarding vacuum thru these branch type fittings ..it seems that because the IAC only opens intermittantly and the MAP pressure being a constant this can change the MAP signal to the computor signal when IAC operates. So the IAC and MAP must be run from different ports.

ZZ0502

04-04-2011, 08:27 PM

Gav,

You will be an EFI guru once you get the 69 up and running.

The stacks will definely set the car off as being unique.

S[_]SPECT

05-04-2011, 12:40 AM

Gav,
IAC is a vacuum leak until it closes..
Its effectively a bypass for the throttle body(ies) and its effect would be the same reduction in vacuum across the plenum whether it is separately tapped or not. I dont see how it would make a difference.

USA-69Z

05-04-2011, 07:26 AM

SPECT;58246']Gav,
IAC is a vacuum leak until it closes..
Its effectively a bypass for the throttle body(ies) and its effect would be the same reduction in vacuum across the plenum whether it is separately tapped or not. I dont see how it would make a difference.

Birchy , ive read a lot info on this , on the efi tech forums, the techs from F.A.S.T (which ive bought there harness) They all tell me to run seperate lines from the plenum for map and iac.. because of fluctuations the iac can cause it will give you false readings from map to the ecu. The only guys that seem to think a block or tree will be ok is here ????????:confused:

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'quote'' Seperate lines is a must, when the IAC opens the MAP vac will take a dive and the ECU will think the load just went up. Then will add extra fuel to compensate for this. 'unquote'

this is from BRIAN MACEY -EFI university instructor ---EFI101 etc etc

69SS

05-04-2011, 05:37 PM

Gav, Ive done a bit of research on it too mate ( was planning on a Harrop system, but too pricey ), and what you are saying seems to be the norm - even with modern EFI engines.

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it is an expensive uprade Lyndsay..

manifold & throttle bodys $3500
EFI tank $1700 shipped USA
harness ecu, Reg & sensors $1900 shipped USA
teflon hose and fittings $ 550

so far :o

still need injectors :cool:

Gav

The outlay will be be close to an LS swap out, but yours will be much more exotic, its going to be sweet when its finised mate. I have decided on leaving the LS6 and just wacking on a Harrop blower, less hassle and I can always sell it later if I decide to build a LSX. Hvve been saving my pennies. :rolleyes:

Looking forward to seeing this finished mate.

Cheers

USA-69Z

08-04-2011, 07:39 AM

anyone any thoughts on fuel line sizing? i was thinking -6 teflon but should i be going -8 ? ( for efi)

Gav

blackoutsteve

08-04-2011, 05:41 PM

Depends on power (BSFC), but I'd go -8.

Are they suggesting Teflon lined for only 50psi?

USA-69Z

08-04-2011, 11:31 PM

Depends on power (BSFC), but I'd go -8.

Are they suggesting Teflon lined for only 50psi?

Steve , all the efi ninja's all recommend the teflon braid which is higher rated than rubber braid and is the only fuel line 'guarenteed' not to smell of fuel and is compatible with newer fuels..
same stuff is used for comp brake lines i believe

p.s whats the BSFC ? :confused:

blackoutsteve

09-04-2011, 05:39 AM

Brake Specific Fuel Consumption.

I once had braided Teflon lines for power steering lines. (1000psi) The knob in the hose shop recomended it. Cost me a lot at the time too.
Teflon hates vibration, so the Teflon cracked and I had a major leak. I replaced them with regular OE style hose and with no surprises at all, it out lasted

"Steve , all the efi ninja's all recommend the teflon braid which is higher rated..."

OK, but we're only talking 50psi. Sounds all very Pro Touring to me. :)
A regular OE style hard line will have less restriction than a flexible braided line and will easily handle a few thousand. Looks a lot neater than the "powerline" look of braided under the car as it goes from clip to clip..

TUFF68

09-04-2011, 11:01 AM

"Steve , all the efi ninja's all recommend the teflon braid which is higher rated..."

OK, but we're only talking 50psi. Sounds all very Pro Touring to me. :)

and sounds all very TopFuel/Doorslammer to me....:)

18htan

27-04-2011, 06:45 PM

mate great to see this coming together.

Its going to be quite the ride. Oh and mroe details on what you have your eye on...

Manifold fitted up .. had to machine the rear for dissy , front for thermostat housing and also no 'step' for thermostat to sit on.. crappy casting.

Thats what you get for $3,500 :eek:

blackoutsteve

27-04-2011, 08:57 PM

Hmm I didn't know the Holley manifold/s were cast at the Winters' foundry.. Note the Winters' logo.
(Same foundry for all GM manifolds)

USA-69Z

27-04-2011, 09:00 PM

Hmm I didn't know the Holley manifold/s were cast at the Winters' foundry.. Note the Winters' logo.
(Same foundry for all GM manifolds)

maybe its a rare special model ;) you wanna buy it :p

Nev68

28-04-2011, 10:17 AM

Looking forward to seeing the finished set up.
Should add a nice touch to an already awesome looking car.

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Hmm I didn't know the Holley manifold/s were cast at the Winters' foundry.. Note the Winters' logo.
(Same foundry for all GM manifolds)

is it a snowflake, or just a date/ time casting?

tonner

28-04-2011, 10:48 AM

Looking great Gav, it's a real pi$$ of when you pay good money and the parts aren't how you expect them to be.

Greg

blackoutsteve

28-04-2011, 07:06 PM

is it a snowflake, or just a date/ time casting?

It's the Winters foundry logo. In the middle of the snowflake logo is a W for Winters! :)

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww258/triple20/71%20cutlass%20S/DSC02054.jpg

J.J.

04-05-2011, 12:56 PM

man it looks so sweet now!

RAW454

04-05-2011, 06:55 PM

:cool::cool: Sweet as man! Dig the solo too.

Thought of finishing up with just a morph of RH side shots through the various style stages? Don't forget the "au" on USM (assuming you mean us :p)

Nev68

04-05-2011, 07:03 PM

Heres a slideshow i done showing my car for original purchase to now

http://youtu.be/HN13zJJnxFQ

Very cool.

Who would have thought a change of wheels would start the transformation.

tonner

04-05-2011, 09:00 PM

Very Cool x 2, the evolution has been great Gav.

Greg

Nev68

16-05-2011, 01:03 PM

Looking good Gav.
Does the "electronic brain" you are using do timing / spark control as well as fuel management?

USA-69Z

29-06-2011, 02:16 PM

heres an update ...

finally ironed out the bugs and have her up & running.. been a big learning experience ,,throttle response is awsum , idle is a bit smoother and sounds great at full flight thru the trumpets !

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/staaaccckkk008.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/sun27thfeb2010014.jpg

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http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/CAMAROSEPT2010001.jpg

J.J.

29-06-2011, 02:20 PM

loving this car Gav, my fav 69 around! engine bay looks INSANE

S[_]SPECT

29-06-2011, 02:54 PM

Love it Gav..
Manifold issues aside, how did you find the conversion? Was the EZ-efi 'easy' enough ?

67SS502

29-06-2011, 03:01 PM

what are you going to do for filters on these flutes

rodent

29-06-2011, 04:39 PM

Not that I've run a blaster ss Gav(I've no idea what MSD spruik about it)but I don't know that I would be running one laying over as they are full of oil and the 5hit leaks out :( and when there's no oil to cool them down they go bang :(

Maybe they don't have oil in them:confused: who knows

USA-69Z

29-06-2011, 04:53 PM

SPECT;66358']Love it Gav..
Manifold issues aside, how did you find the conversion? Was the EZ-efi 'easy' enough ?

birchy , the ezi efi itself is pretty simple. you just have to make sure all the elements are done to the letter. no exhaust leaks, timing perfect , exacting with the wiring to there instructions. one small change can throw the whole tune out. one thing the harness was made for LHD vehicles and was made to route from right side and of course i had to go from the left.:o hence the ecu pointing in the wrong direction .
the harness is way too long also and i had to cut and splice it to take a meter of wire out.

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what are you going to do for filters on these flutes

disco, i can get a set of clip-on filters from the US pretty cheap. 2 pieces of stainless mesh with a foam element sandwiched between. THey just clip over the edge of the trumpet.

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Not that I've run a blaster ss Gav(I've no idea what MSD spruik about it)but I don't know that I would be running one laying over as they are full of oil and the 5hit leaks out :( and when there's no oil to cool them down they go bang :(

Maybe they don't have oil in them:confused: who knows

Jim , im not sure if it will leak but its been like that for 5 years with no dramas.
it takes a bit to get it upright these dayz ;) just seems to like layin over

rodent

29-06-2011, 04:56 PM

Jim , im not sure if it will leak but its been like that for 5 years with no dramas.
it takes a bit to get it upright these dayz ;) just seems to like layin over

Sweet :) I've got a bucket in the shed with a heap of coils in it and a lot of oil laying at the bottom :( Obviously MSD have a method of sealing their badboyz up :)

PS:The cars looking fantastic :cool:

Frank351

29-06-2011, 05:00 PM

WOW ! now that's a sweet Camaro.

One of the nicest I have seen for a while.

Congrats !

Cheers,
Frank.

tonner

29-06-2011, 08:31 PM

Looks great Gav, glad to see you ironed out the problems.

Greg

71RS

04-07-2011, 05:09 PM

Love those trumpets Gav, They look fantastic on top of engines. Car looks brilliant!

AUSCAMARO

13-07-2011, 10:18 AM

Those trumpets look PORN Gav.. I will be in Newcastle in a couple of months.. Will try and look you up!!

Mitch

L88racer

13-07-2011, 11:07 AM

Hi Gav

The set-up looks really sweet, have you noticed an improvement in driving with the injection?

Rowan

USA-69Z

13-07-2011, 11:27 AM

Hi Gav

The set-up looks really sweet, have you noticed an improvement in driving with the injection?

Rowan

Hi Rowan , the noise is the first thing thats very noticable.. this thing is loud.. and when you open it up up you can hear it a long way a way..as far as performance goes its not as 'refined' as i would have expected , the engine feels more angry and much more sensative/responsive. Its smoothed the cam/idle out a little but seems to change tune a lot with the elements ie hot/cold /fans on etc . starts with a 'touch' which is nice too. Not sure yet if ive gained any horsepower maybe its just the way its delivered.

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Those trumpets look PORN Gav.. I will be in Newcastle in a couple of months.. Will try and look you up!!

Mitch

for sure Mitch,, hopefully its warmer here by then ,, bloody freezin!

AUSCAMARO

13-07-2011, 01:13 PM

for sure Mitch,, hopefully its warmer here by then ,, bloody freezin!

Yeah, but apparently there is some nice swell coming off the breakwall at Nobbies... Guys are getting towed in I'm led to believe from a reliable source!!

USA-69Z

13-07-2011, 02:35 PM

Yeah, but apparently there is some nice swell coming off the breakwall at Nobbies... Guys are getting towed in I'm led to believe from a reliable source!!

its been 6-10 ft every day for a week or more now.. i think if you log into nbn.com.au theres a heap of footage of the tow ins yesterday ..

your sauce is reliable :eek:

USA-69Z

18-09-2011, 06:10 PM

Took the car out today to the Newcastle foreshore show n shine for its first outing with the new injection..

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/STRIPES-BARREL-CARFEST021.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/STRIPES-BARREL-CARFEST020.jpg

some interesting fashion wandering around ! it was 30 plus today !

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/STRIPES-BARREL-CARFEST019.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/STRIPES-BARREL-CARFEST017-1.jpg

tonner

18-09-2011, 06:39 PM

Looks pure pon Gav, I am looking at Kinslers LSX injection for mine, is yours all sorted now?

Greg

USA-69Z

18-09-2011, 11:15 PM

pretty much Greg... resonably streetable ,, doesnt like idling along too much , it gets that surge thing goin. Gotta expect that ,Theres a lot of air movin in there from very little throttle.

Twisted67

18-09-2011, 11:25 PM

Love it Gav,I'm sure it was a crowd pleaser today!!:cool::cool::cool:

Paul

69SS

19-09-2011, 12:24 AM

Looks unreal Gav, when are new wheels getting fitted?

Strange place to be wettied up!!

Nev68

19-09-2011, 03:03 AM

Sex on wheels,
Very nice

USA-69Z

19-09-2011, 07:29 AM

Looks unreal Gav, when are new wheels getting fitted?

Strange place to be wettied up!!

Thanx fella's.. new wheels will be on by end of the month,, due in the US on the 18th sept.

67cammy

19-09-2011, 08:09 AM

Looking MAGIC Gav. Love it. I missed this part about new wheels? What's the go with this?

USA-69Z

19-09-2011, 08:15 AM

Looking MAGIC Gav. Love it. I missed this part about new wheels? What's the go with this?

ha ha Dave ,, you know me ! its time for a change again:o
trying something a little different , i want to go back to a 'step lip' rim instead of the 'fatlip' rims im sporting.. thats my main reason.

camaro_1967rs

19-09-2011, 05:56 PM

looks great Dave, did your engine swallow a lot of lady birds or something the red things?

Excuse my knowledge on these fuel injection set ups, know nothing about them.

USA-69Z

19-09-2011, 06:10 PM

special rubber air valves Pete! ;)

rodent

19-09-2011, 07:16 PM

Yeah,looks great Dave :) keep up the good work :D

LS3 HQ

19-09-2011, 11:00 PM

Just awesome, looks so tough. I see a magazine feature coming on. Hey what are you using for air filters.

USA-69Z

19-09-2011, 11:06 PM

Just awesome, looks so tough. I see a magazine feature coming on. Hey what are you using for air filters.

thanx Luke , I got 4 slip on filter sox that go on in pairs. ugly but will do for the longer runs

J.J.

20-09-2011, 11:21 AM

so what rims did you decide on?

LS3 HQ

20-09-2011, 11:35 AM

thanx Luke , I got 4 slip on filter sox that go on in pairs. ugly but will do for the longer runs

Yeah ok similar to what im running on my ute. Im going to try and make an airbox/plenum with an over the radiator style cold air intake just to try and get some cold air into the motor. Right now its just sucking hot air from the bay which cant be helping hp especially with summer coming up.

aussie69camaro

23-09-2011, 09:41 AM

Just read the whole thing, this thing looks magnificent, it has now made my background shot on my work pc :)

AUSCAMARO

20-10-2011, 02:19 AM

USA-69Z

20-10-2011, 08:33 AM

Well Gav... Twice now I've been over since i've known you on here and twice now I haven't been able to catch you...

Never mind... We might be coming over for a bit of a stint soon? Still to decide yet but it's on the cards, just awaiting an offer...

Mitch

Mitch , how diid you try n get hold of me? when were you in newy?

I can shoot you my mobile number for next time ..:o

AUSCAMARO

21-10-2011, 04:30 AM

Mitch , how diid you try n get hold of me? when were you in newy?

I can shoot you my mobile number for next time ..:o

Went for a little drive over East for the last month... It was a month from start to finish in total. Just got home on Saturday and straight back to work Sunday LOL...

Did 11000k's in MUMSRIG with the camper in tow. Went to Bathurst etc... Only ended up being in Newie for about 5 days total and was busy for all that time. The only day I had a chance of catching ya was when it was pissing down... so I took the Mrs to Charelstown Square instead.. YAY for me :rolleyes: