blackoutsteve
21-12-2008, 10:24 AM
For sale is my used 3" exhaust system out of my stock chassis & suspension 1969 Camaro.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/433/exhaust004ke3.th.jpg (http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust004ke3.jpg)
The headers are HPC-coated mild steel. They have flanges laser-cut to suit Edelbrock alum head "Rectoval" exh ports. Primary diameters are 1 7/8" for 10", then stepping to 2" for a total of ~34" into F1/Indy-style stainless steel merge collectors.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7267/exhaust013fi5.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust013fi5.jpg) http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8342/exhaust005qw7.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust005qw7.jpg)
Most importantly, these headers (mainly the right one) is designed around a (good) RHD conversion using a RHD Saginaw 800 series power steering box. (Australian delivery Pontiacs used these and they are an exact mirror opposite to the stock Camaro PS box.) You should also be OK with any rack & pinion conversion.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7931/subframeconversion028id9.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subframeconversion028id9.jpg) http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6403/subframeconversion033qk4.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subframeconversion033qk4.jpg) http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1782/engineblackout219cm1.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineblackout219cm1.jpg) http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6349/engineblackout220lo8.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineblackout220lo8.jpg) http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2138/engineblackout221ea5.th.jpg (http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineblackout221ea5.jpg) http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7459/exhaust012ns1.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust012ns1.jpg)
The HPC ceramic coating has burnt off in a few places and will either need recoating or painting. (VHT hi-temp painting is recomended.) HPC/JetHot standard coatings are rated at 1300F. Typical exhaust temps are around 1350F.. Go figure as to why they bother with this stuff in the first place.
If you insist on ceramic coatings, I suggest paying for the 2000F stuff.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3477/exhaust009xd3.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust009xd3.jpg)
The system from the collectors back, is all 3" stainless steel mandrel bend with X-pipe.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5011/exhaust008hn8.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust008hn8.jpg)
Mufflers are custom length Black Mamba triple-core by David Wale. Many V8Supercar teams use his mufflers. These are glass-packed and free flowing.
If you are interested in a nice, quiet, legal system, stop reading here. This system was obviously built with performace in mind.
In fact, ET at Calder with system fitted was 11.49 @122. With system disconnected/removed.. 11.65@122. Yes, slower.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2739/exhaust006re7.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust006re7.jpg)
The system is assembled using 4 V-Band clamps. No gaskets and no 3 rusty-bolt flanges here.
Entire center section is removed with one 7/16 deep socket in 5 minutes for transmission removal or whatever.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9752/exhaust011md0.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust011md0.jpg) http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2996/exhaust010mi6.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust010mi6.jpg)
This it what it sounds like..
(Open headers) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj4kFYCC-5A
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=cTqAHhLni2A
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4oDC8BE3cY0
Oh, price.. Um.. it cost me a lot to build. You can do your own math, but I'd be happy with 2 grand.
Component prices then..
Mufflers $900 pair.
Laser-cut flanges $75 pair.
Merge collectors $800 pair.
V-band clamps $500 for 4.
HPC coating was then $360.
Sub total.. $2635.
Then you can guess materials and labor on top.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/433/exhaust004ke3.th.jpg (http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust004ke3.jpg)
The headers are HPC-coated mild steel. They have flanges laser-cut to suit Edelbrock alum head "Rectoval" exh ports. Primary diameters are 1 7/8" for 10", then stepping to 2" for a total of ~34" into F1/Indy-style stainless steel merge collectors.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7267/exhaust013fi5.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust013fi5.jpg) http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8342/exhaust005qw7.th.jpg (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust005qw7.jpg)
Most importantly, these headers (mainly the right one) is designed around a (good) RHD conversion using a RHD Saginaw 800 series power steering box. (Australian delivery Pontiacs used these and they are an exact mirror opposite to the stock Camaro PS box.) You should also be OK with any rack & pinion conversion.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7931/subframeconversion028id9.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subframeconversion028id9.jpg) http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6403/subframeconversion033qk4.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subframeconversion033qk4.jpg) http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1782/engineblackout219cm1.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineblackout219cm1.jpg) http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6349/engineblackout220lo8.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineblackout220lo8.jpg) http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2138/engineblackout221ea5.th.jpg (http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineblackout221ea5.jpg) http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7459/exhaust012ns1.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust012ns1.jpg)
The HPC ceramic coating has burnt off in a few places and will either need recoating or painting. (VHT hi-temp painting is recomended.) HPC/JetHot standard coatings are rated at 1300F. Typical exhaust temps are around 1350F.. Go figure as to why they bother with this stuff in the first place.
If you insist on ceramic coatings, I suggest paying for the 2000F stuff.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3477/exhaust009xd3.th.jpg (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust009xd3.jpg)
The system from the collectors back, is all 3" stainless steel mandrel bend with X-pipe.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5011/exhaust008hn8.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust008hn8.jpg)
Mufflers are custom length Black Mamba triple-core by David Wale. Many V8Supercar teams use his mufflers. These are glass-packed and free flowing.
If you are interested in a nice, quiet, legal system, stop reading here. This system was obviously built with performace in mind.
In fact, ET at Calder with system fitted was 11.49 @122. With system disconnected/removed.. 11.65@122. Yes, slower.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2739/exhaust006re7.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust006re7.jpg)
The system is assembled using 4 V-Band clamps. No gaskets and no 3 rusty-bolt flanges here.
Entire center section is removed with one 7/16 deep socket in 5 minutes for transmission removal or whatever.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9752/exhaust011md0.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust011md0.jpg) http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2996/exhaust010mi6.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exhaust010mi6.jpg)
This it what it sounds like..
(Open headers) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj4kFYCC-5A
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=cTqAHhLni2A
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4oDC8BE3cY0
Oh, price.. Um.. it cost me a lot to build. You can do your own math, but I'd be happy with 2 grand.
Component prices then..
Mufflers $900 pair.
Laser-cut flanges $75 pair.
Merge collectors $800 pair.
V-band clamps $500 for 4.
HPC coating was then $360.
Sub total.. $2635.
Then you can guess materials and labor on top.