Nev's 68 camaro rebuild

[Nev68]

G'day fellow muscle car fans.
I have only just found out about this site and I am glad to see there are others who have a similar interst to me
I am building a '68 Camaro (but nothing like Hellfire, I wish I could afford to)
Please see some photos of my car which is still a few months away form finishing
When I got our '68 it had a vinyl roof (beware of vinyl roofs, see photo) a stuffed 350 and rust around the rear wheel arches.
I thought it would still make a nice cuiser and I think it is getting there.

I stripped the car back to bare metal with paint stripper and found a few surprises, but in genral the car was solid, except for the roof and some rust around the rear wheel arches.
I have tried to do most work myself where possible
I am new at this Forum stuff so I hope other people will like my photos.


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[EAT-30T]

Nice... good to see another Camaro!!

Its a take over !!

[rodent]

Its a take over !!

Your'e tell'in me :( Shouldn't be long now, there'll be more Camaros on the road than HQ's :p

[TUFF68]

Hi Nev68,

Always a pleasure to see another 1st gen Camaro and you have the best year as well :)

[69coupe]

Nice car and welcome. Pity its not a 69 but close :D

[cluxford]

Welcome aboard...lots of 1st Gen lovers here...

I envy anyone that can do this stuff themselves, I have neither the time nor skill.

Keep us updated on progress

[anychevy]

Your'e tell'in me :( Shouldn't be long now, there'll be more Camaros on the road than HQ's :p

And mustangs :D well allmost :rolleyes: welcome aboard :cool:

[Nev68]

Thanks for the encouragement. I am amazed that there are so many 1st gen fans around.
I've always wanted a '68 Camaro and I am glad I now own one.

Our rebuild has been pretty good except for the day I pulled the vinyl roof off (see photo).
That was the day I realised I may as well strip the car right back to bare metal and fix the body properly.
Stripping the body with paint stripper wasn't fun. I did the same to our HQ coupe and promised I wouldn't do it again but......

[camaro_1967rs]

Thanks for the encouragement. I am amazed that there are so many 1st gen fans around.
I've always wanted a '68 Camaro and I am glad I now own one.


Welcome aboard.

Do youself a favor and setup an account with photobucket or similar website so that you can post pictures easier as you can see below..

What you do is upload the pics you like to your photoalbum and then just copy the link in to your post when you need to, then the photo pops up.

Good that you can do most of the work yourself.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bucketofbubbles_detailing/DSC_2124.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bucketofbubbles_detailing/DSC_2250.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bucketofbubbles_detailing/DSC_2067.jpg

[Nev68]

trial run using photobucket

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roofgoingondriverearqtr.jpg

[cluxford]

trial run sort of worked....

Copy and paste the IMG tag (not the JPG tag)

Rgds
Chris

[RSZ28]

Your'e tell'in me :( Shouldn't be long now, there'll be more Camaros on the road than HQ's :p

Probably passed that point already! :D

[Nev68]

trial run sort of worked....

Copy and paste the IMG tag (not the JPG tag)

Rgds
Chris

Thanks.
I'll try a few more pictures of the new roof going on
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roofgoingondriverearqtr.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roofgoingondriverrearpillar2.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roofoff2.jpg
The old roof was not salvagable after 40 years of weather with a vinyl roof

[Nev68]

A couple of more photos.
1. Lead wip of the rear pillar to rof join
2. replacing section behind the wheel archhttp://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roof-Bpillarleadwipe1.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Driverrearqtrpaneltacked2.jpg

[RSZ28]

Thanks.
I'll try a few more pictures of the new roof going on
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roofgoingondriverearqtr.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roofgoingondriverrearpillar2.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Roofoff2.jpg
The old roof was not salvagable after 40 years of weather with a vinyl roof

Love the lead wipe. Bottom rust repair on rear 1/4 looks great too!

Those vinyl roofs are a killer. Always worth looking out for the vinyl roof code and steering clear if possible. Never heard of a single one surviving. Apparently the original glue turned corrosive after a while.

Even if they no longer have the vinyl on, a fridge magnet does a good job of finding a bondo roof.

[cluxford]

wow, great work.....

Mine had it's roof replaced a long time ago, but was originally a vinyl roof also.

Pics worked a treat

Rgds
Chris

[Nev68]

wow, great work.....

Mine had it's roof replaced a long time ago, but was originally a vinyl roof also.

Pics worked a treat

Rgds
Chris

Thanks Chris.

When we bought the car there were a few bubbles visible under the vinyl, but we didnt expect this.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/rooffront3.jpg
Anyway, all is good now we have replaced the roof entirely

Here is a photo of the right hand side rear qtr and wheel arch repair.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Passengerrearqtrpartrepair2.jpg

Rgds,
Nev

[camaro_1967rs]

good to see u got photobucket up and running.

you going to learn heaps from here on.

i would have killed for your skills and most others here in panel work.

[Dicko]

Hi Nev

Good work with the roof.

I'm about to do one myself.

Did you weld the whole seam from the qtr panel or leave it stiched like the pic ?

also how did you go undoing the spot welds in the gutter rails ? were they a pain in the arse to line up & weld again ?

[Nev68]

Hi Nev

Good work with the roof.

I'm about to do one myself.

Did you weld the whole seam from the qtr panel or leave it stiched like the pic ?

also how did you go undoing the spot welds in the gutter rails ? were they a pain in the arse to line up & weld again ?

Hi
the whole roof / qtr seam was welded.
Spot welds were ground (grinder)
Just have to be careful with alignment before welding.

If you want to see some really good pics on a first gen Camaro going together piece by piece go to the folowing link;
http://www.mikescustomcars.com/projects/projects.asp?proj=CFletcher69

Album 5: pic 46 to 48 & 52 to 55
Album 6: Pic 1, 2 & 3 have photos specifically showing the roof going on

Rgds Nev

[Nev68]

Some more photos of the rear qtr closer to being finished
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Driverrearqtrfinishedpanelwork.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Reardriverguardinprimer2.jpg

[cluxford]

Lookas great

[Nev68]

A bit more panel work completed
Panel between rear window and boot replaced
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Panelbetweenrearwindowandbootfinish.jpg
Test fit the boot lid
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Bootlidtestfitinprimer2.jpg

Passenger side door test fit with rebuilt hinges

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Passengerdoortestfit2.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Passengerdoortestfit.jpg

[Nev68]

Panel work almost finished
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/DriverRearqtrandfrontpaneltestfit.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Frontpanelsandbonnettestfit1.jpg

[EAT-30T]

Your making awesome progress there!!

[Nev68]

Panel work completed.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Camaroafterpanelworkcomplete5.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Camarofinalpanelwork.jpg

Now we can pull it all apart again and start painting, powder coating etc etc.
Engine and trans are now off to be rebuilt.

[RSZ28]

Excellent progress. Looking good!

[Nev68]

Excellent progress. Looking good!

Thanks.
It's getting there.
Red paint with a white bumble bee stripe is next.
Powder coating the chassis, radiator support etc.
Engine is being built. 383 stroker. Aiming for about 400hp. I know this isn't much in comparison to some, but it will be an "old school" muscle car, so 400 shouldn't make it too hard to live with.
I wish I could go for a manual trans, but I have the T350 in for a rebuild.

More photos later.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

A little bit more work.
Chassis & Radiator support etc. removed for paint and/or powder coat.
Chassis will be powder coated, as will radiator support and all associated parts.
Paint for the upper and lower control arms.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Chassiandotherpartsb4stripcoating2.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Chassiandotherpartsb4stripcoating.jpg

Here's a photo of the 350 4 bolt block I picked up. It's with the engine builder now.
It's getting hard to find standard bore 350 4 bolters. I remember a time when we were tripping over them.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/maincaps.jpg

Rgds,
Nev

[tonner]

Awesome work. you must be really Happy with the speed of progress.

[Nev68]

Awesome work. you must be really Happy with the speed of progress.

Thanks tonner.
Yes, we are quite happy so far.
Only trouble is that it costs a bit to go at this pace.
I am desperate to get this thing on the road this year.
We haven't had a cool car for some years now (last car was a 350 HQ coupe), so it will be good to cruise around again in something that has a cool factor and (hopefuly) won't get me embarrassed in the acceleration by a family car.

Rgds,
Nev

[J.J.]

nice read, car is coming along very quickly

[Nev68]

nice read, car is coming along very quickly

Thanks J.J.
I am trying to keep the progress moving but I still want to get the best result possible (within a budget which is dangerously close to blowing out).
I just bought a ton of parts from Classic Industries when the $ was around 0.95. Aussie $ being relatively high helps a bit.
So once painted it is full steam ahead.

Rgds,
Nev

[Adam68]

Thanks J.J.
I am trying to keep the progress moving but I still want to get the best result possible (within a budget which is dangerously close to blowing out).
I just bought a ton of parts from Classic Industries when the $ was around 0.95. Aussie $ being relatively high helps a bit.
So once painted it is full steam ahead.

Rgds,
Nev

Car is looking great and well done with the dollar. I think i got it at its peak at 97.3 when i paid for my camaro a few weeks ago. It is hard to believe that it is at 86 now

[Nev68]

Car is looking great and well done with the dollar. I think i got it at its peak at 97.3 when i paid for my camaro a few weeks ago. It is hard to believe that it is at 86 now

Yep, pretty happy with the car so far.
I'll get some more progress photos up soon.

I am not sure if we will see the $Oz back at $US0.97 for a while.
It's still not bad at $US0.87, I remember when it got down to $0.49.
I hope we don't see that again.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Upper and lower control arms have been blasted.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/blastedforntendpartswitholdbusheset.jpg
I'll paint these and replace all the bushes etc

Now the chassis , radiator support panel etc are off for powder coating.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Radiatorsupportpanel.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Chassisb4coating1.jpg

Rgds,
Nev

[454 NUTTR]

hay nev do u know what front end part's are the same as HQ holden

[Nev68]

hay nev do u know what front end part's are the same as HQ holden

Sorry, I don't know, but I did the same with my HQ coupe and the parts on the upper and lower control arms look very familiar. (as do the upper and lower control arms themselves, very close to HQ)
I probably should have doen some research to see if any local stuff fitted, but I just bought a heap of gear from Classic Industries and got a kit form Energy Suspension that includes all the suspension bushes etc for front and rear.
I thought this was the easiest way to go.

Rgds,
Nev

[TUFF68]

I also used the same Energy Suspension kit and when the suspension shop pressed in the bushes for me they said they were same bushes as HQ

[Nev68]

Car is back home from the painter.
Time to get back into it and see if I can get this thing going this year.
What can possibly go wrong? (famous last words)

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Paintedhome.jpg

Rgds,
Nev

[454 NUTTR]

look's the good's nev now up to the best part wish it was me

[anychevy]

look's the good's nev now up to the best part wish it was me
Putting them back together is the most rewarding part IMHO it looks great :cool:

[Nev68]

look's the good's nev now up to the best part wish it was me
Thanks NUTTR.
I've already started putting parts on.
Not sure if I'm doing it in the right order but you're right, this is the best part.

I've put some more photos showing before and after and some of adding trims.

Engine bay before
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/enginebaysansengine.jpg

Engine bay after paint / powder coat
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Enginebay.jpg

Rear end while stripping old paint (this has to be one of the worst jobs going, not sure if I'll strip a car by hand again!)
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Tailpanelstripped.jpg

Rear end just after paint
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Rearpainted1.jpg

Front wheel arch trim (Photo is a bit blurry, must be getting excited)
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Frontwheelarchtrims.jpg

Rear wheel arch and side marker (Too much flash on the camera so colour is not right)
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Rearwheelarchsidemarker.jpg

Weather is really tidied up over the last few days which makes me want to go for a cruise. I hope I can get this done this year but I don't want to rush and stuff anything up.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Putting them back together is the most rewarding part IMHO it looks great :cool:

You're right. Rearding and good fun (so far)

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Hi All,
Still not sure if I'm doing this in the right order but it's fun so far.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Frontbumperfitted2b.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Taillightsfitted1a.jpg

[Nev68]

Got the engine back for the engine builder it made 434 hp & 444 lb-ft.
Not mega horsepower, but I think it's respectable.



As you can see from the photo I am going for the stock look since i have to go through a registration inspection to get it on the road.
The photo was taken during the dyno session.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Engineondynostand.jpg

[Aussiecamaroowner]

Looking great mate! Wish I was up to that point....

[Nev68]

Looking great mate! Wish I was up to that point....

Thanks, I am fairly happy so far.
Just can't wait to go for a drive.

I'll look forward to some progress reports on yours soon.

Rgds,
Nev

[cluxford]

Nev, you are screaming along...car is looking a treat

[Nev68]

Nev, you are screaming along...car is looking a treat

Thanks, I was screamin' along.
Fitted the door mechanisms and door glass and started trial fitting the inner door panels today and shut the passenger side door.
Now I can't get the bl**dy thing open and the door trim is on.

I'll have to try to figure out how to open it thru the top of the door.

All part of the fun I suppose.

Rgds,
Nev

[454 NUTTR]

u have to love that i was up at the summer nat last year had the car out on the oval 4 sale people looking all over it went to open it up 4 a guy rigth and left no go only the boot worked talk about timming i was that close to just walking away

[Nev68]

Finally got the door open.
Although I figured out the problem, I'm not putting the door trims back on until much later (just in case).
There's half a day I'll never get back!

Here are a few more progress pictures of the interior.
Putting in Dynamat and Dynaliner and then fit carpet, seats, shifter, console etc.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Fittingdynamattofloor3.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Dynamatfloor.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Dynalinerfittedtofirewallandtranstu.jpg

Getting closer every day.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Started putting the carpet in.
I've had to lay it out for a while as it came folded up.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingrearcarpet.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingfrontcarpet.jpg
As you can see I've started wiring as well.
These kits are great. All new wire, conectors and terminals make the job a lot easier than trying to use old crap or having to figure out wiring lengths and so on.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Wiringboxoftrickscontents2.jpg

[69coupe]

These kits are great. All new wire, conectors and terminals make the job a lot easier than trying to use old crap or having to figure out wiring lengths and so on.
Nev68 Where did you get the wiring kit ? Locally ?? Is it made just for Camaros or a general kit ??

[EAT-30T]

Nev where did you get that wiring kit?? Does it do the "whole car" ??

Big inspiration mate... Your making killer progress there!!

[Nev68]

These kits are great. All new wire, conectors and terminals make the job a lot easier than trying to use old crap or having to figure out wiring lengths and so on.
Nev68 Where did you get the wiring kit ? Locally ?? Is it made just for Camaros or a general kit ??

I bought the kit through Classic Industries in the US when I bought a heap of other gear.
American Autowire specialise in GM wiring kits (not only Camaro)

There wire lengths are quite generous so it allows you to hide the wiring and still have enough length to reach lights, horns, fans etc.
It alos has some spare terminals in case you stuff up a crimp or 2.

The only things you will need are a good set of crimping pliers (I used Utilux pliers) and to be really safe a small soldering iron to make sure of a a good connection between terminals and wire.

Apart from tools the kit basically has everything you need to wire the car from scratch.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Nev where did you get that wiring kit?? Does it do the "whole car" ??

Big inspiration mate... Your making killer progress there!!


Bought the Kit through Classic Industries in the US.
I toyed with the idea of buying the wire and wiring myself but I'm glad I didn't as this kit has all the teminals, correct connector blocks, even the fuse block that goes throught the firewall.
So buying the kit saved a heap of stuffing around and using brittle old parts.

Yes, it does the whole car.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Still trying to make progress. Only worked during the weeknights as Saturday was the AFL Grand final so we had a BBQ with the mates watched the game and had one or 2 ales.

Did a bit more wiring around the dash and fitted the steering cloumn.
Also fitted the instrument pod.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingdashswitches.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Dashheaterglaveboxfitted.jpg

I am just going with the basic stock gauges at the moment (speedo and fuel gauge. Can it get any more basic?), but I am thinking about going for a set of "Classic Instruments"
http://www.classicinstruments.com/index.aspx?documentID=camaro1
What do you think?

Also did the wiring to the tail lights. This shot is part way through the running of wiring and connecting to the tail lights.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Wiringtail-lightsetc.jpg

Rgds,
Nev

[Aussiecamaroowner]

Looking good mate. I am also getting one of those AAW kits. Is that the Classic Update kit?

I am also changing the gauges and cluster and they should have been here this week, but they are both "lost in space" at the moment. I went for the Covan's cluster an Stewart Warner gauges. I looked at those ones you are getting, but they were a bit too exy for me.

[J.J.]

so what are one of these kits worth?

[anychevy]

These http://www.wiringharness.com/ and American autowire are excellent products.
"Painless" on the other hand are o.k. for rods and customs but not for musclecars IMO

[Nev68]

Looking good mate. I am also getting one of those AAW kits. Is that the Classic Update kit?

I am also changing the gauges and cluster and they should have been here this week, but they are both "lost in space" at the moment. I went for the Covan's cluster an Stewart Warner gauges. I looked at those ones you are getting, but they were a bit too exy for me.

Thanks. It's starting look more like a car now.
Yes, I got the Classic update kit.

I like the Covan's cluster too, but I have a preference for one of the Autometer styles.
Because of price I am also seriousy considering the Covan's over the "Classic Instruments"

Look forward to some more pics of yours.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

so what are one of these kits worth?

J.J.
I think it was around the US $500 but at the time I got an excellent exchange rate and free shipping through an acquaintance which made it a very good option for me.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Started to fit more of the interior.
Fitting the head liner is not much fun but it feels good once you have finished.
But while you are heating, stretching, gluing, stretching, clipping over and over you wonder if you'll ever finish.
There were a few nasty words coming out of my mouth from time to time but I am glad I had a go.

Anyway, here's a few pics of the process
First I did an easier job and fitted the steering wheel
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Steeringwheeldash.jpg

Then the fun began.
Dynamat on the inside
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner2.jpg
Started by fitting the roof bows to the head liner and then hanging the headliner (starting from the middle)
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner4.jpg

Fitted the bows toward the rear of the car
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner8.jpg

Then I clipped the liner along the top of the rear window opening (this is just to get things roughly into position before the really hard work)
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner10.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner12.jpg

Then started clipping the bows from the middle to the front
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner9.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner13.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner14.jpg

Then clipped the liner to the windscreen frame ( just loosely to get a rough location before stretching etc)
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner16.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner17.jpg

Then I started to heat the head liner and stretch to get it closer to the final fit, heating and clipping as I went to hold the liner in position.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner18.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/fittingheadliner20.jpg

When I got the headliner as tight as I possibly could I started to glue the liner around the edges and clip to keep the liner in position until the glue dried.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Gluingfrontofheadliner.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Rearheadlinergluedclipped.jpg

After clipping I fitted the Courtesy lamp and sunvisors.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/interiorlampfitting.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Sunvisorsfitted2.jpg

Just have to clean the dirty finger marks off now.

A tip. Fit all the screws for the sun visors and courtsey lamp etc before you fit the head liner.
It makes it much easier to find the correct location a ensure you cut the liner at the right spot to fit these parts.

This is a time consuming laborious job, but I did it by myself. (i.e one person)
It might be easier if you have 2 people but it might be a bit tight and you would have to be good friends as it can get a bit warm while heating the liner and trying to stretch it.

I hope this helps someone out.

Rgds,
Nev

[RSZ28]

Great work Nev and great pics too. Headliners are fun arent they, and there is that satisfaction after the pain!

Wish I had my windows out when I did mine. Clearly you end up with a much better job.

Cheers.

[67cammy]

Great work Nev and great pics too. Headliners are fun arent they, and there is that satisfaction after the pain!

Wish I had my windows out when I did mine. Clearly you end up with a much better job.

Cheers.

Excellent. Thanks RSZ28, I was about to ask if its possible to instal the liner with the windows in. Some have said I need to take them out which I really didnt want to do. At least I know it is possioble now.
Cheers:)

[Nev68]

Excellent. Thanks RSZ28, I was about to ask if its possible to instal the liner with the windows in. Some have said I need to take them out which I really didnt want to do. At least I know it is possioble now.
Cheers:)

I think you could put the headliner in with the winodws in but it would turn a difficult job into a mongrel job.
I would have to recommend windscreen and back window out for this job.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Great work Nev and great pics too. Headliners are fun arent they, and there is that satisfaction after the pain!

Wish I had my windows out when I did mine. Clearly you end up with a much better job.

Cheers.

Thanks.
Windows in would make headliner installation much harder
Trouble with jobs like this is by the time you've finished an learned how to do it your average home car builder won't need to do installation of a headliner for a while.
I hope my information can help someone else though.

Rgds,
Nev

[EAT-30T]

If you tell me you work a day Job (M-F 8-5) and made this much progres.. I'm seriously going to consider hangin myslef :p LOL

[Nev68]

If you tell me you work a day Job (M-F 8-5) and made this much progres.. I'm seriously going to consider hangin myslef :p LOL

Do you have rope?:)

Rgds,
Nev

[EAT-30T]

Do you have rope?:)

Rgds,
Nev

Yes .. yes I do..... :o If anyone needs me I'll just be in the corner crying.


:o

[AUSCAMARO]

Looking great mate! Wish I was up to that point....


DAMN!! I wish i'd started..... little own be upto this point!

Looking good Nev... The progress pics are making ask myself what I've gotten into though...:D

Mitch

[RSZ28]

Do you have rope?:)

Rgds,
Nev

Heh heh.....BYO rope! :D

[RSZ28]

Excellent. Thanks RSZ28, I was about to ask if its possible to instal the liner with the windows in. Some have said I need to take them out which I really didnt want to do. At least I know it is possioble now.
Cheers:)

Yes it is possible, and I have done it, quote common, but it is a lot more fiddly to get right. And I took out the front and rear lips and cleaned them and put the contact on while they were out, which made it slightly easier and got a better glue coverage, but not necessary when I really think about it, as they are hard to get out (one way clips :mad: ), and hard to get back in.

Certainly easier to get right with the windows out, but can be done with them in for sure.

Just plan it well and dont make it up as you go. Important that the headliner is well warmed by some time in the summer sun, and it is done on a very warm day, or in a warm shed. You will know it is hot enough as you will sweat profusely! This helps expand the vinyl as much as possible so that when it cools, it maintains a tight finish.

The front is reasonably easy compared to the rear :eek: .

I really found the trim sticks on each side under the sail panels the crappy part. They are dense cardboard in a metal channel. really need a good staple gun to shoot staples in. Didnt have one. They enable the headlining to be pulled taught in the C pillar area from under the sail panels.

I think you could put the headliner in with the winodws in but it would turn a difficult job into a mongrel job.
I would have to recommend windscreen and back window out for this job.

Rgds,
Nev

Yeah your right Nev. Its a toss up. I chose not to pull the windows due to risk of cracking one (quite common by many reports), and I would be pulling them again for paint in ~12-18 months anyway, and I NEEDED a headliner badly.

Your shots of doing it with the windows out, are the best I have seen. Thanks for taking the time to take these and post them!!!

The Camaro design is different to i.e. an earlier Ford or Holden which has rubber window seals, and where there is no seperate headliner mounting lip, and the headliner is glued around the window seal lip of the body. Fisher body manual outlines the process to do it with the windows in for a Camaro etc, but is probably a little on the vague side, and probably written by a trim design guy who never did one anyway! LOL :D

Cheerz!

[Nev68]

Yes .. yes I do..... :o If anyone needs me I'll just be in the corner crying.


:o

I should add that I have been saving and planning for some time, so I have been without a hobby car for a number of years.
My last car (HQ coupe) sat around for years, I didn't want to go through that again.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

DAMN!! I wish i'd started..... little own be upto this point!

Looking good Nev... The progress pics are making ask myself what I've gotten into though...:D

Mitch

Thanks Mitch.
My advice is have a plan and a budget (long gone, too scared to add up the $'s now).
I come from a trade background but I am not on the tools anymore.
Now I find it fun and rewarding actually using tools again and seeing the car come together.
Further advice is to "get into it"

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Yes it is possible, and I have done it, quote common, but it is a lot more fiddly to get right. And I took out the front and rear lips and cleaned them and put the contact on while they were out, which made it slightly easier and got a better glue coverage, but not necessary when I really think about it, as they are hard to get out (one way clips :mad: ), and hard to get back in.

Certainly easier to get right with the windows out, but can be done with them in for sure.

Just plan it well and dont make it up as you go. Important that the headliner is well warmed by some time in the summer sun, and it is done on a very warm day, or in a warm shed. You will know it is hot enough as you will sweat profusely! This helps expand the vinyl as much as possible so that when it cools, it maintains a tight finish.

The front is reasonably easy compared to the rear :eek: .

I really found the trim sticks on each side under the sail panels the crappy part. They are dense cardboard in a metal channel. really need a good staple gun to shoot staples in. Didnt have one. They enable the headlining to be pulled taught in the C pillar area from under the sail panels.



Yeah your right Nev. Its a toss up. I chose not to pull the windows due to risk of cracking one (quite common by many reports), and I would be pulling them again for paint in ~12-18 months anyway, and I NEEDED a headliner badly.

Your shots of doing it with the windows out, are the best I have seen. Thanks for taking the time to take these and post them!!!

The Camaro design is different to i.e. an earlier Ford or Holden which has rubber window seals, and where there is no seperate headliner mounting lip, and the headliner is glued around the window seal lip of the body. Fisher body manual outlines the process to do it with the windows in for a Camaro etc, but is probably a little on the vague side, and probably written by a trim design guy who never did one anyway! LOL :D

Cheerz!

HI RSZ28,
I know what you mean about cracking the windows.
I cracked the windscreen getting it out and I thought I was being careful.:o
Good excuse to get a nice new one though.

I'm glad that the photos are appreciated.:)
I hunted on the 'net for a while and could realy find much so I thought some photos may help someone

Rgds,
Nev

[TUFF68]

Thanks Mitch.
My advice is have a plan and a budget (long gone, too scared to add up the $'s now).

Thats good advice, but if your anything like me, whatever you budget for before you begin - double it and that will be about what you actually have spent by the time your finished and added up the bills :D :D ........but then again, there never really finished are they ? ;)

As for the windscreen, i had mine replaced back in June and the first time the good people from Novus installed it they set it about 5mm too far out from the body and i could'nt get the side trim back on. So i rang them up and they gladly came back and re-installed it (without breaking it) correctly at no charge. So a good windscreeen installer (need 2 people though) can remove it without cracking it no problems

[454 NUTTR]

best i find is 4 get about a budget do the job right the 1st time and in the end u save money and car's on a budget look budget well thats what i think and if u go to sell the car people can tell where the money has gone and where it did not go and your right there tuff 68 they never finished and at the end of the day they olny going up in price

[RSZ28]

As for the windscreen, i had mine replaced back in June and the first time the good people from Novus installed it they set it about 5mm too far out from the body and i could'nt get the side trim back on. So i rang them up and they gladly came back and re-installed it (without breaking it) correctly at no charge. So a good windscreeen installer (need 2 people though) can remove it without cracking it no problems

Did Novus have a Camaro windscreen?

Cheers!

[Nev68]

best i find is 4 get about a budget do the job right the 1st time and in the end u save money and car's on a budget look budget well thats what i think and if u go to sell the car people can tell where the money has gone and where it did not go and your right there tuff 68 they never finished and at the end of the day they olny going up in price

Hi Nuttr,
I can't agree more.
It frustrates me when i toalk to people who say "why did you pay that much?, I got it for $X cheaper".
But I smile to myself when they go back a 2nd or third time to get crap work fixed / patched up.
I suppose cheap prices are tempting as most of us have a limited amoount of money or a bride to give you a reality check from time to time.
"Get it done once and get it done right" is a good motto for car builders.

Rgds,
Nev

[AUSCAMARO]

Thanks Mitch.
My advice is have a plan and a budget (long gone, too scared to add up the $'s now).
I come from a trade background but I am not on the tools anymore.
Now I find it fun and rewarding actually using tools again and seeing the car come together.
Further advice is to "get into it"

Rgds,
Nev

I too come from an Automotive trade background and I certainly couldn't afford my toys if I couldn't do the majority of work myself...

I've also been off the tools for a good while now and actually enjoy getting on the spanners, thats if I'm not just doing a service for someone that is!

As for a plan, the 1st step is complete **purchase Camaro**, now I've just got to work out what it really needs done to it.

Cheers

Mitch

[67cammy]

Thanks for the encouragement. I am amazed that there are so many 1st gen fans around.
I've always wanted a '68 Camaro and I am glad I now own one.

Our rebuild has been pretty good except for the day I pulled the vinyl roof off (see photo).
That was the day I realised I may as well strip the car right back to bare metal and fix the body properly.
Stripping the body with paint stripper wasn't fun. I did the same to our HQ coupe and promised I wouldn't do it again but......

Hey Nev,
That roof is a mess. Were you able to save it or did you put a new one on? I found out after my paint was stripped that it used to have a vinyl roof. Rust on both sides running along where the seams were. Wasnt really bad so they ended up welding a few holes.
Sorry, just saw you replaced it 971

[Nev68]

Hey Nev,
That roof is a mess. Were you able to save it or did you put a new one on? I found out after my paint was stripped that it used to have a vinyl roof. Rust on both sides running along where the seams were. Wasnt really bad so they ended up welding a few holes.
Sorry, just saw you replaced it 971

Dave,
We could have repaired the roof but it was better to replace it (in my opinion) as it saved us time and we didn't have to worry about the possible return of rust.

Rgds,
Nev

[TUFF68]

Did Novus have a Camaro windscreen?

Cheers!

yes had it in stock, they told me that the windscreen is the same on Camaro's up to the early 70's, 74 i think it was ?

[Nev68]

Not many photos to show that make it look like progress this week, been a bit busy.
I have been trying to get all the wiring neat and tidy.
I have started to put the console in.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/FittingconsoleShifter.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Fittingconsoleshifter3.jpg

Hopefully, I'll get some quality shed time in this week.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Should have added that the console photos are halfway through the job so it's not lined up properly in the photos.
Hopefuly I'll be able to send some pics of the completed interior soon.

Nev

[Dan6t7]

Been looking through your build, great job. Im bout to Dynamat my car how much did you use? for the full floor and roof? I got one box now and think i'll need more but not a full box worth???

Cheers

[Nev68]

Been looking through your build, great job. Im bout to Dynamat my car how much did you use? for the full floor and roof? I got one box now and think i'll need more but not a full box worth???

Cheers

Dan6T7,
Thanks we are happy with the build so far.
I used a fair bit of the dynamat, but I did the roof, floor, firewall, panel between the boot, panels under the 1/4 windows and the doors.
I got an excellent deal on ebay for a couple of bulk packs.
1 pack had 36 square feet (9 sheets, I think) and another pack with 32 square feet (8 sheets?) all I have left is a piece about 300mm x 300mm.
I also used Dynaliner 1/4 inch thick (12 sq ft) on the lower part of the firewall and under the feet of driver and passenger and over the trans hump.

I can't tell you if it has made an improvement yet but when you knock on the panels they sound "dead" i.e no drumming.

Hope this helps.

Rgds,
Nev

[WILD68]

nev,
you have done really well the car is lookin great.
i work on trucks all day and really dread coming home and working on my car. but it is really rewarding when everything comes together:D

are you in WA have you looked much into rego?
eventually i wanna get mine licensed when i got the money to put it back to standard. backwards hey.:confused:

[Nev68]

nev,
you have done really well the car is lookin great.
i work on trucks all day and really dread coming home and working on my car. but it is really rewarding when everything comes together:D

are you in WA have you looked much into rego?
eventually i wanna get mine licensed when i got the money to put it back to standard. backwards hey.:confused:

WILD68,
Thanks, we are happy with the build so far and it is good seeing it come together, but I can't wait to get it on the road.
Hopefully it won't be long before we can take it for a cruise.
I am in SA so I can't help you with the WA rego.
All I can say is LH drive rego in SA is F@#kin strict. You can't even have an aftermarket radio!!:(

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

No progress.:(
Travelling for work O/S.
I did order a new fuel tank that wil be fitted when I get home.
I have withdrawal symptoms:(

[Nev68]

Finally got back into working on the car after a trip away for work.
Started by sorting out some brackets and painting some bits and pieces, but really wanted to get the new fuel tank in this weekend.

Painted the tank. I have seen some that aren't painted but.....
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Newtankpainted.jpg

Fitted / glued the anti squeak kit to the top of the tank
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/antisqueakset.jpg

and fitted the new seal, fuel sender and lock ring

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Tanksenderunit.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Fittingsenderunit.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Sealingringforsender.jpg
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Lockingringtightened.jpg

fitted the new filler neck connector hose. The old one was a bit stuffed
Old one
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Oldfillerneckhose.jpg
New one
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/newfillerneckhose.jpg

Ready to fit to the car
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/upperantisqueakrubbersfitted.jpg

Used a trolley jack to hold the tank up while I tightened the tank straps.
Fitted
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Tankfitted.jpg

Phew, that's better.

Rgds,
Nev

[67cammy]

Getting there Nev. When are you going to be on the road. It'll definitely be before me the way you go. :)

[Nev68]

Getting there Nev. When are you going to be on the road. It'll definitely be before me the way you go. :)

Dave,
Work is catching up with me and I haven't been able to dedicate the time I would like.
AT the moment I am doing little jobs on the car that most wouldn't notice but have to be done (you know, tidying wiring, making brackets etc)
I was moving along at a good pace for a while there.
Anyway, I reckon the car will be going in around 4 weeks.
I think the delay will be getting through Regency Park though.
A mate just went through and the waiting list for inspection etc is over a month.
Not sure if this can be true or not.

Rgds,
Nev

[69coupe]

Nev
Is that fuel outlet pipe big enough ? I ran a 1/2" for a Big Block. You dont want a performance engine sucking thru a straw

[Nev68]

Nev
Is that fuel outlet pipe big enough ? I ran a 1/2" for a Big Block. You dont want a performance engine sucking thru a straw

It's 3/8". Remember mine's only a small block with 435hp:)
I asked the engine builder and Dyno bloke if I needed to got to 1/2" , they both reckon 3/8'' was big enough and shouldn't have any worries.
Time will tell. I hope to have it all running in a few weeks.

Rgds,
Nev

[67cammy]

Dave,
Work is catching up with me and I haven't been able to dedicate the time I would like.
AT the moment I am doing little jobs on the car that most wouldn't notice but have to be done (you know, tidying wiring, making brackets etc)
I was moving along at a good pace for a while there.
Anyway, I reckon the car will be going in around 4 weeks.
I think the delay will be getting through Regency Park though.
A mate just went through and the waiting list for inspection etc is over a month.
Not sure if this can be true or not.

Rgds,
Nev

Nev I heard the same thing about Regency only worse. Cant be true if your mates going through, but I heard it was 3 months!! I can handle a month but 3would be a bit much

[Nev68]

Nev I heard the same thing about Regency only worse. Cant be true if your mates going through, but I heard it was 3 months!! I can handle a month but 3would be a bit much

I hope it's only a month.
Otherwise Summer will be over by the time I get mine registered (or at least inspected):(

Rgds,
Nev

[camaro_1967rs]

I asked the engine builder and Dyno bloke if I needed to got to 1/2" , they both reckon 3/8'' was big enough and shouldn't have any worries.


Hi Nev.

My 400 sbc was upgraded to the 3/8 line this was not enough so I am now using -10 line from the back of the fuel tank to the front. My situation was also increased by the mechanical fuel pump working so hard it caused heat in the line and the fuel atomising.

My engine was running out of fuel with the 3/8 line at 4000 RPM using a Holley 750 ULTRA HP and Holley 130 gpm mechanical pump.

My experience is if you are going to do performance research fuel supply well as its a pain in arse fault repairing as I have found.

Paul

[cluxford]

Nev,

Good to see progress, even though you have slowed by your standars, I think your making far quicker progress than (most) of the rest of us :)

Will it be ready by Xmas ?

[Nev68]

Nev,

Good to see progress, even though you have slowed by your standars, I think your making far quicker progress than (most) of the rest of us :)

Will it be ready by Xmas ?

Hi Moderator Luxford.
Yes, I have slowed up a bit. I am still working on a few little things to keep it moving along. (Glad to see some progress on yours, hope to see more)
Unfortunatley income has priority over hobby. I get a bit busier at this time of year.

I hope I will be fairly complete by Christmas.
My delay will be inspection and registration if all the reports I am hearing are correct.
A wait list of somewhere between 1 and 3 months?

Rgds,
Nev

[TUFF68]

Hi Nev.

My 400 sbc was upgraded to the 3/8 line this was not enough so I am now using -10 line from the back of the fuel tank to the front. My situation was also increased by the mechanical fuel pump working so hard it caused heat in the line and the fuel atomising.

My engine was running out of fuel with the 3/8 line at 4000 RPM using a Holley 750 ULTRA HP and Holley 130 gpm mechanical pump.

My experience is if you are going to do performance research fuel supply well as its a pain in arse fault repairing as I have found.

Paul

Nev, what fuel pump are you using ?
Paul, i had a similar problem years ago with my '57. It has a 400-420hp SBC and had 3/8" fuel line with a mechanical pump. The faster i went the lower the fuel pressure got. Ran 13.00 @ 107mph with the fuel pressure dropping to under 3psi crossing the line :eek: . Upgraded to 1/2" line and a mallory 140gph electric fuel pump and problem solved.
With the camaro i'm using -10 from the cell to the magnafuel 275 pump, -8 from the pump to the reg and -6 from the reg to the carby.

[camaro_1967rs]

Talk about learning!

The Road Demon 850 dp (holley hp equivelent) was fine with the fuel supply to 6200 but the fuel was bubbling out of the vents at the top.

Put the 750 Holley ULTRA HP got more HP low and the motor now runs out of fuel at 4000.

The HP ULTRA is far more efficient than the 850 Demon, on fuel mixture and CFM, as found out by numerous dyno tests.

The 3/8 line is good for 375 HP from what I have read and experienced, I hope this is my final upgrade with the fuel line.

The AEROMOTIVE 4 port reg looks amazing I will post some pics of the whole system to show you all.

This is my fuel system setup:
-10 from the baffled std tank to the A1000 pump,
-8 to the 4 port reg
-8 to the Aeromotive fuel log both sides.
-6 on the return line to the tank ( a little trick I have put a thread inside the -6 fitting the same size as the holley jets so that I screw in any holley carby jet so that I can play around with the amount of fuel being returned, keeping just enough back pressure in the line).

This setup should handle upto 1000hp, not that I am going to get there!:D YET:p

Here is the pic of my new fuel system, I wanted to take pics underneath the car but was unable to do so:
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bucketofbubbles_detailing/DSC_4286.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bucketofbubbles_detailing/DSC_4285.jpg

[Nev68]

Hi Nev.

My 400 sbc was upgraded to the 3/8 line this was not enough so I am now using -10 line from the back of the fuel tank to the front. My situation was also increased by the mechanical fuel pump working so hard it caused heat in the line and the fuel atomising.

My engine was running out of fuel with the 3/8 line at 4000 RPM using a Holley 750 ULTRA HP and Holley 130 gpm mechanical pump.

My experience is if you are going to do performance research fuel supply well as its a pain in arse fault repairing as I have found.

Paul

Hi Paul,
Thanks for the information.
I've got a 750 cfm Ultra amd Holley mechanical pump (130gph)
So did you increase the diamter of the fuel pick up in the tank as well as the fuel line to the pump?
Also, has anyone found much difference in fuel types (eg Shell ultra, BP Ultimate etc)?

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Nev, what fuel pump are you using ?
Paul, i had a similar problem years ago with my '57. It has a 400-420hp SBC and had 3/8" fuel line with a mechanical pump. The faster i went the lower the fuel pressure got. Ran 13.00 @ 107mph with the fuel pressure dropping to under 3psi crossing the line :eek: . Upgraded to 1/2" line and a mallory 140gph electric fuel pump and problem solved.
With the camaro i'm using -10 from the cell to the magnafuel 275 pump, -8 from the pump to the reg and -6 from the reg to the carby.


Thanks for the info Tuff68.
I'm using a mechanical Holley pump. (130gph)
Do you need a regulator with the Electric pump, or is the regulator built into the pump?
Is a return line to the tank needed?
Did you also increase the diameter of the fuel pick up tube in the tank?

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Crikey, you've done some work and thanks for the info.
I have the problem of getting through inspection first.
My car is LH drive so it must be stock (or at least appear so) to gain registration in SA.
I think I'll increase the fuel line diameter for now and see how I go.
Sound like I'll need some upgrades later.

When you say 3/8" is good to 375hp, do you mean 375 at the crank or wheels?

So did you find the 750 Ultra meets requirements?

Rgds,
Nev

[camaro_1967rs]

Hi Paul,
Thanks for the information.
I've got a 750 cfm Ultra amd Holley mechanical pump (130gph)
So did you increase the diamter of the fuel pick up in the tank as well as the fuel line to the pump?
Also, has anyone found much difference in fuel types (eg Shell ultra, BP Ultimate etc)?

Rgds,
Nev
Firstly you cant compare the ULTRA Series carbs to the standard double pumpers or vac secondaries totally different to cut the story short just plain more efficient. The small block Chev does not need a lot of carburation its all in their heads and the runners you choose on the manifold unlike the windsor or cleveland.

My 406 kept transferring to much heat to the mechanical pump and it took the fuel to boiling point, it was bubbling like just before you put your chook eggs in to cook.

Did not increase the size of the diameter of the pick up line, dissconnected it. I have welded a baffle onto the rear of the tank and mounted the fuel line to the underneath at the rear of the tank.

the fuel line I am using is -10 back to the 4 port reglulator and then I have added a return line to help with the recycling of fuel and cooling it.

If you are not doing 1/4 mile work then most people are using BP Ultimate now, be warned! stay away from SHELL VP RACING, the ethonole is not suitable with carburettor cars, I had lots of problems with my tune and plugs fouling every 2 weeks, i took the fuel filter off and found ethonole residue which was white and turned into solid material.

[camaro_1967rs]

When you say 3/8" is good to 375hp, do you mean 375 at the crank or wheels?

So did you find the 750 Ultra meets requirements?

Rgds,
Nev

375 at the flywheel.

To early to tell re the 750, the aim is to dyno it again late next week then I will know, stage two is to then force some heat soak through the engine to see if the fuel atomises.

[TUFF68]

Thanks for the info Tuff68.
I'm using a mechanical Holley pump. (130gph)
Do you need a regulator with the Electric pump, or is the regulator built into the pump?
Is a return line to the tank needed?
Did you also increase the diameter of the fuel pick up tube in the tank?

Rgds,
Nev

Nev, my electric pump runs a regulator but i'm not using a return line. And similar to Paul above, i blocked off the standard pickup as well and welded in a threaded fitting to the bottom of the stock tank which gravity feeds the pump which is mounted under the rear bumper. Electric pumps are made more to push the fuel rather than suck it up through the pick up tube.

With the tight arse SA laws for LHD cars are you allowed to run an electric pump or do you have to stick with the mechanical one ?

[camaro_1967rs]

With the tight arse SA laws for LHD cars are you allowed to run an electric pump or do you have to stick with the mechanical one ?

If the laws dont permit an external pump put an aeromotive or 100% duty cycle pump inside the tank, same as a fuel injection install. Maybe that would provide a clean install, then just weld in a bung on the side to pump the fuel out.

[Nev68]

375 at the flywheel.

To early to tell re the 750, the aim is to dyno it again late next week then I will know, stage two is to then force some heat soak through the engine to see if the fuel atomises.

Uh oh. maybe I'll have issues with 3/8 " fuel line and 435hp.
I'll give it a go. if I need to increase the diameter then them's the breaks.

I'll look forward to hearing about your dyno session.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Nev, my electric pump runs a regulator but i'm not using a return line. And similar to Paul above, i blocked off the standard pickup as well and welded in a threaded fitting to the bottom of the stock tank which gravity feeds the pump which is mounted under the rear bumper. Electric pumps are made more to push the fuel rather than suck it up through the pick up tube.

With the tight arse SA laws for LHD cars are you allowed to run an electric pump or do you have to stick with the mechanical one ?

Thanks Tuff68.
So I assume you still use the float to give you fuel level at the gauge and the assembly is still fitted to the top of the tank.
Do electric pumps need to be close to the fuel tank to minimise the "lift"?

I'd be wasting my time if I fronted for inspection with an electric fuel pump.
I'm going in a stock as possible.

Rgds,
Nev

[camaro_1967rs]

Thanks Tuff68.
So I assume you still use the float to give you fuel level at the gauge and the assembly is still fitted to the top of the tank.
Do electric pumps need to be close to the fuel tank to minimise the "lift"?



I met another victorian camaro owner on Friday, he has a mild 383 with a mechanical pump and 750 Holley (vac sec) he is experiencing loss of fuel over 5000 rpm as well.

I still use the std float system to keep the fuel guage accurate, blocked the end but so I could use it again if I had to.

The electric pump in theory needs to be below the tank or level with it. One way is to use a small bosch in the tank pump or just out side of it to pump up to a surge tank in the boot, and then from there your main electric pump pushes from there.

You could source pipe thicker than 3/8 bend it to factory shape and paint it black, this would not detract from the originality like my system which is huge and covered with clear silicon to avoid damage.

[TUFF68]

I still use the std float system to keep the fuel guage accurate, blocked the end but so I could use it again if I had to.

My setup is the same as Paul's, Nev.

[Nev68]

I have had a delay on the build of my car.
A bit of a set back.
Not sure if I'll be out for a drive this summer.:(

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Ceiling.jpg

Yes..... there is damage.

Rgds,
Nev

[67cammy]

Oh no Nev. How did that happen. Right on top of it too :eek:

[Nev68]

Oh no Nev. How did that happen. Right on top of it too :eek:

Not sure of the cause, just glad other cars weren't in the garage at the time and we didn't get hurt.
Damage to roof, boot, header panel etc etc etc.
It's enough to bring a bloke to tears. :(

Just have to get back into it and sort it all out.

Rgds,
Nev

[RSZ28]

Do you mean the ceiling just fell down?

[cluxford]

Nev,

That just sucks. Is the damage major ?

Do you know how that roof fell in ?

[WILD68]

that sux man..

[tonner]

Sorry to hear that, insured?

[Nev68]

Do you mean the ceiling just fell down?

Yes

[Nev68]

Nev,

That just sucks. Is the damage major ?

Do you know how that roof fell in ?


Damage doesn't look major it's just a pain in the @rse.
So close to getting finshed too.

I don't know why the ceiling came in.

You know the saying blood, sweat and tears?
I've shed all of them now.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Sorry to hear that, insured?

Yes, insured but I'd rather have not needed it.

Rgds,
Nev

[tonner]

Yes, insured but I'd rather have not needed it.

Rgds,
Nev

For shure, but its a great thing to have when thins turn to ****.


Greg

[Nev68]

Does anyone know where to source 1/2" steel fuel line or bundy tube?

Rgds,
Nev

[WILD68]

Enzed or pirtek will have steel but ally is easier to work with and moroso make it, get it from ya local speed shop

[Nev68]

Enzed or pirtek will have steel but ally is easier to work with and moroso make it, get it from ya local speed shop

Thanks Wild68.
Do you now if there are any problems with aluminum anealing or work hardening and cracking?

Rgds,
Nev

[WILD68]

Thanks Wild68.
Do you now if there are any problems with aluminum anealing or work hardening and cracking?

Rgds,
Nev

no i have it in a few cars now and even pulled it out of one commodore heap in to another and it is still good today and that was 3 yrs ago. i used compression fittings from enzed and they work a treat. takes about half time and effort to fit compared to steel.

Jamie

[Nev68]

no i have it in a few cars now and even pulled it out of one commodore heap in to another and it is still good today and that was 3 yrs ago. i used compression fittings from enzed and they work a treat. takes about half time and effort to fit compared to steel.

Jamie

Thanks Jamie.
I'll check it out on Monday.

[Nev68]

So my car if off for repairs tomorrow.
While I ahve been waiting I have been trying to do some stuff to keep me amused like;

Put new park brake cables in
Tidy up some wiring
Put engine in.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Enginein.jpg

As mentioned before I am going for the "stock" look hence the orange rocker covers and standard induction air cleaner. (top section/seal of air cleaner not fitted in photo)


Put tyres on wheels

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/frontrimtyre2.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/frontrimtyre.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/rearviewrimtyre.jpg

Just putting the rally's on.
Needs to be lowered significantly.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Got the car back from being repaired today.
The damage wasn't as bad as it could have been, but still a pain in the @rse :mad:
Now I just have to wait for the painter for a few weeks.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Dentsout1.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Dentsout2.jpg

I'll see if I can get it running before it goes to get the roof etc painted and the windscreen and back window go in.

Nev

[67cammy]

Glad it wasnt too bad Nev. At least theyll be able to match the paint ok. If that happened to mine theyd be repainting the whole car because of the candy. When do you reckon youll have it on the road.

[Nev68]

Glad it wasnt too bad Nev. At least theyll be able to match the paint ok. If that happened to mine theyd be repainting the whole car because of the candy. When do you reckon youll have it on the road.

Yeah, it could have been a lot worse.
One of the reasons I went for an "off the shelf" colour was the ease of repair and matching.
I plan to drive it a bit so I though we may have to fix some stone chips over time.
It doesn't go to the painter until end of Feb or beginning of March so I'll have some time to do the bits and pieces required to get it going.
Hopefully we'll see it semi mobile (able to move under it's own power) in the next couple of weeks.
Not sure when I'll actually get it on the road properly though.

Nev

[cluxford]

Nev,

Good to see it fixed, bumps in the road suck.

Now did you use 9" nails on that roof, don't want a repeat ??

[RSZ28]

Put tyres on wheels

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/frontrimtyre2.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/frontrimtyre.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/rearviewrimtyre.jpg

Just putting the rally's on.
Needs to be lowered significantly.

Rgds,
Nev

Are they 15 X 8's? v nice!

Cheers.

[Nev68]

Nev,

Good to see it fixed, bumps in the road suck.

Now did you use 9" nails on that roof, don't want a repeat ??

I'm glad it's halfway fixed.
Just have to wait for the painter now.
It is a good story for the future. When people aske me how the car build is going and I tell them waht happened I have to show the pictures as they find it hard to believe what happened.

The ceiling in my garage still isn't fixed yet (should be fixed in a couple of weeks) but when it is I'll make sure it stays where it is supposed to.

Nev

[Nev68]

Are they 15 X 8's? v nice!

Cheers.

Thanks, I like the classic look.
The wheels are 15 x 7's with Yokohama Y352, 235/60R15 on the rear and 225/60R15 on the front.

Nev

[AUSCAMARO]

C'Mon Nev, where's the updates?

Mitch

[Nev68]

C'Mon Nev, where's the updates?

Mitch

Mitch,
There may have been a conspiracy to keep me out of the shed, finally got out to play with the car last Sunday after returning from O/S and also got some time today.
Put a new fuel line in (tank to fuel pump) the old line was 5/16" so I pulled it out to use as a template and bent up a 3/8" unit. Fits well, but bending steel tube is hard work adn you need to be sure the bend is in the right place (once you've bent steel tube you aint bending it straight again).

Back window and trims are in.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Rearwindowtrimsin.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Rearbumperandfuelcapfitted.jpg

If you have the original window trims, my recommendation is to use them. The repros are a crap fit. I tried the repros but opted for polishing the old trims.

Fitted badges, mirrors etc

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/driversidebadgeswheelsfitted.jpg

Now I am trying to make the cowl induction air cleaner fit, by that I mean allow the bonnet to close.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Enginewithaircleaner1a.jpg

I'll need to trim the top section to allow the bonnet to close, that will be a job for during the week.
Had to make some mods to the rear / underside of the aircleaner with a soft mallet to fit around the HEI dizzy too.

Have to get the windscreen and trims sorted out this week too.

Nev

[67cammy]

Hey Nev, Thats looking fantastic. Have you put your door seals in yet. Just wondering how you went with them. I put one in last week and the door never even looked close to wanting to close easily. Is there a product to soften up the rubber or is it a case of time. I really had to use some force to close it completely. Didn't feel very comfortable doing it at all :confused:

[Nev68]

Hey Nev, Thats looking fantastic. Have you put your door seals in yet. Just wondering how you went with them. I put one in last week and the door never even looked close to wanting to close easily. Is there a product to soften up the rubber or is it a case of time. I really had to use some force to close it completely. Didn't feel very comfortable doing it at all :confused:

Thanks, al the "little" jobs are taking a while to finish off.
Yes, I have the door seals in.
When you fit them it is much harder to close the door, I have to slam the door but when it is closed the door is alighned with the panel.
I don't push on the door handle to close them, even thought the panels are quite thick compared to modern cars i am still afraid I'll dent the door.
I think the door closing is becoming easier with time.

Nev

[67cammy]

Nev is your bumble bee stripe stick on or painted on. Ive decided to get one using a sticker coz its definitely not going back to the paint shop jail. Anyone had any experience with these

[chevguy]

Hey Nev, Thats looking fantastic. Have you put your door seals in yet. Just wondering how you went with them. I put one in last week and the door never even looked close to wanting to close easily. Is there a product to soften up the rubber or is it a case of time. I really had to use some force to close it completely. Didn't feel very comfortable doing it at all :confused:

I found silicone spray is very good on new seals,it allows the front of the door to slide on the rubber not grab.

[67cammy]

I found silicone spray is very good on new seals,it allows the front of the door to slide on the rubber not grab.

Excellent, thanks. I'll get some and see how it goes

[Nev68]

Nev is your bumble bee stripe stick on or painted on. Ive decided to get one using a sticker coz its definitely not going back to the paint shop jail. Anyone had any experience with these

Dave,
My B/bee stripe is painted on.
I've got a stencil kit if you are intersted. (actually I 've got a few bits and pieces I should gather together and sell off)

Nev

[67cammy]

Dave,
My B/bee stripe is painted on.
I've got a stencil kit if you are intersted. (actually I 've got a few bits and pieces I should gather together and sell off)

Nev

Thanks Nev but I wouldnt want to risk stuffing up my paint by doing it myself coz theres no way its going back to the paint shop. I'd like to be driving this thing before I'm in a nursing home. Thanks for the offer though.:)

[Nev68]

Thanks Nev but I wouldnt want to risk stuffing up my paint by doing it myself coz theres no way its going back to the paint shop. I'd like to be driving this thing before I'm in a nursing home. Thanks for the offer though.:)

Dave,
I was actually wondering why you want the stripe anyway.
Your paint doesn't need any highlights.

Nev

[67cammy]

Mmm I dunno Nev. If you look at this shot there just seems to be a lot of red there. Needs something to break it up. Ive just got the 'Camaro' fender emblems today and I'll see what its like after they're on but Ive always liked the stripe as well :confused: I have the 67 grill in there now too:)
1984

[USA-69Z]

A QWICK HIJACK - SORRY ! A metallic silver hockey stripe would be sweet

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/Saturday20ISCA20Pick20of20the20show.jpg

this stripe

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/After20Sema20078.jpg

[67cammy]

I like the idea of the silver. But that means paint shop which I dont want to deal with. Unless you know of someone who does a decal in silver? I really want the old school bumble bee stripe though.

[blackoutsteve]

Wheel-arch trim mouldings would look real nice too, Dave.

[Nev68]

[QUOTE=novocastrian;15375]A QWICK HIJACK - SORRY ! A metallic silver hockey stripe would be sweet

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/dragstripper/Saturday20ISCA20Pick20of20the20show.jpg

I like this one Dave, but I'd be hesitant to put a decal on.
IMO, painted stripe would be the go if you really want to break up the single colour.

Nev

[AUSCAMARO]

I like this one Dave, but I'd be hesitant to put a decal on.
IMO, painted stripe would be the go if you really want to break up the single colour.

Nev

With the quality of the vinyl they use these days there shouldn't be any problem with using it instead of painting, then atleast you have the option to change if you wish for minimal expense and it's just a simple matter of removing the old stripes, no paint shop involved ever.
Just need to make sure you find someone that is pationate about what they are doing and has a real good eye and steady hand;)

Mitch

[Nev68]

Had a little bit of time this afternoon so I decided I'd do one of the seemingly endless list of small jobs, I fitted the standard Camaro radio I bought recently.

Since I can't have a modern radio out in plain sight I have to fit a standard radio but it doesn't look to bad. (This is one of the requirements for registering a LH drive car in SA, it has to be factory standard)

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Fittingstandardradio9.jpg

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Fittedstandardradio1.jpg

Nev

[cluxford]

Seriously you guys need to move....

Well done Nev but that is just ridiculous. What difference does a radio make to safety.

[blackoutsteve]

(This is one of the requirements for registering a LH drive car in SA, it has to be factory standard)

..a radio! I'd move too. Seriously..

Anyway, looks great and if you wanted to, you may be able to tune it in to a CD stacker hidden in the trunk. (maybe only FM??)
Have you considered a Custom Autosound radio? Looks completely stock with AM/FM stereo, CD stacker inputs and control, probably even MP3 or Ipod compatible now..

I have a USA5 with the 10 stacker.

[Twisted67]

..a radio! I'd move too. Seriously..

Anyway, looks great and if you wanted to, you may be able to tune it in to a CD stacker hidden in the trunk. (maybe only FM??)
Have you considered a Custom Autosound radio? Looks completely stock with AM/FM stereo, CD stacker inputs and control, probably even MP3 or Ipod compatible now..

I have a USA5 with the 10 stacker.

LIKE THIS ONE STEVE???

YOU CAN PLUG AN IPOD INTO ASWELL IF THATS WHAT YA WANT???
THIS IS WHAT I'LL BE GETTIN WHEN THE TIMES RIGHT.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-68-69-70-71-72-74-76-78-79-80-81-Camaro-AM-FM-Radio_W0QQitemZ200288916146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea22652b2&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

PAUL

[blackoutsteve]

Pretty close..
This is the Custom Autosound USA-630 that I am thinking of.
http://www.casmfg.com/CAE-630.jpg

The LCD disappears when switched off. Looks like a regular AM tuner.

http://www.casmfg.com/CH92-630_off.jpg

http://www.casmfg.com/radios.htm

There's hope for my USA-5 if I want MP3 or Ipod connection..
http://www.casmfg.com/MP3_interface.htm

[Nev68]

Pretty close..
This is the Custom Autosound USA-630 that I am thinking of.
http://www.casmfg.com/CAE-630.jpg

The LCD disappears when switched off. Looks like a regular AM tuner.

http://www.casmfg.com/CH92-630_off.jpg

http://www.casmfg.com/radios.htm

There's hope for my USA-5 if I want MP3 or Ipod connection..
http://www.casmfg.com/MP3_interface.htm

I did have one of these at one stage but got rid of it (long story)
Anyway, I will conceal a modern radio in the glovebox or something so I can play CD's, MP3's etc.
I have only wired the standard radio so the dial illuminates, so I need to get some music somehow

Nev

[Nev68]

Seriously you guys need to move....

Well done Nev but that is just ridiculous. What difference does a radio make to safety.

Pitiful isn't it.:(

Nev

[blackoutsteve]

I did have one of these at one stage but got rid of it (long story)

I haven't used mine yet.. Are they junk? Which model did you have?

[Nev68]

I haven't used mine yet.. Are they junk? Which model did you have?

Didn't get to use mine (as I said it's a long but unintersting story), so I can't say.

Nev

[*rayman*]

I chose to put the standard 'AM' radio back in mine so i didnt have to cut the dash up... I plan on running a normal cd player in the glovebox also, with a infrared sensor on the dash somewhere for the remote. I think i paid from memory about $170 U.S for the standard radio.

[Nev68]

I chose to put the standard 'AM' radio back in mine so i didnt have to cut the dash up... I plan on running a normal cd player in the glovebox also, with a infrared sensor on the dash somewhere for the remote. I think i paid from memory about $170 U.S for the standard radio.

Yes, I like the look of the standard radio too.
I just want a radio mounted somewhere so I can connect ad MP3 or similar
I've got speakers in standard locations as I like a few tunes when I'm driving.

Nev

[Nev68]

Got some new bits and pieces
Got them from the US via Classic Industries with some other parts, even with shipppng the price for the Autometers was far better than any price from Oz.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Tachogaugespod.jpg

It's gotta be better than the speedo only dash I have now.

Nev

[camaro_1967rs]

I chose to put the standard 'AM' radio back in mine so i didnt have to cut the dash up....


I did the same.

Kept my eye open on ebay for about 3 months, all the radios I bidded on went for like 200-300 usd for a std am delco 67 correct. Then one day this radio popped up; "found it in my garage looks ok untested" the picture showed a radio covered in overspray, rusted and oil and rubbish all over it.

I won the radio for $20 usd got it for all up $50, pulled it appart and 12 hours later it looked like new. put power to it, smoke everywhere from the oils that had broken down from sitting around. 24 hours later the radio was fine after a bit of a tune.

Best thing! I did it myself. The bad thing, cant hear a dam thing inside the car even whilst at lights. But it looks fantastic.

BTW a melbourne radio restoration company quoted me $400 to do what I did so it was a saving.

[blackoutsteve]

Tic Toc Tach.. Neat, I likey.

[camaro_1967rs]

Tic Toc Tach.. Neat, I likey.

Where do they go on the bonnet?:D sorry its not for a VZ Commondore.

I couldnt resist!!

Looks good.

[Nev68]

Tic Toc Tach.. Neat, I likey.

Me too, trying to keep as close to stock as I can, hence the tic-toc-tac.
I only went for the Autometers because I don't want the oil line for the oil pressure gauge coming into the car on the standard console gauges.

Nev

[Nev68]

Finally fired my motor up in the car (has been on the engine dyno).:D
Trouble is it was with straight extractors and made some people unhappy.:o
I will have to get the exhaust sorted so I can run it and not get in trouble :)

I forgot how loud these things are without mufflers.
Scared the sh!t out of me when it kicked into life, but it sounded good.

Nev

[blackoutsteve]

Open headers.. It's a beautiful thing. :D

[WILD68]

Yep the old lady used to live 4 blocks away could hear mine when i first started it.. love it..

[camaro_1967rs]

Yep the old lady used to live 4 blocks away could hear mine when i first started it.. love it..

Last year everytime I started the Camaro the next door neighbors called the police. I Had around 9 visits over a month period.

[67cammy]

Finally fired my motor up in the car (has been on the engine dyno).:D
Trouble is it was with straight extractors and made some people unhappy.:o
I will have to get the exhaust sorted so I can run it and not get in trouble :)

I forgot how loud these things are without mufflers.
Scared the sh!t out of me when it kicked into life, but it sounded good.

Nev

Nice one Nev. So whats the time frame for getting this on the road. Do you reckon it will be this year?
Where abouts did you get the engine dynoed.
you must be so close now

[Nev68]

Nice one Nev. So whats the time frame for getting this on the road. Do you reckon it will be this year?
Where abouts did you get the engine dynoed.
you must be so close now

Dave,
Will definitely be on the road this year.
Not to intersted in geting it out at the moment with this crap weather.
Just need exahust, wheel alignment, have to join a club so I can get historic rego (I'm thinking SMASA as I used to be a member) and put a down payment on a full tank of Premium unleaded.

Got the engine Dyno'd at Adelaide Engine Developments at Holden hill.

Come on Summer!!!!

Nev

[67cammy]

That is so cool. Are you booked in to Regency. How long is the wait at the moment. I was told the other week that it isn't long at all. Mines very close but I've run out of money right at the pointy end. It's frustrating coz I know how much I've wasted along the way doing things twice!
Anyway hopefully by the end of the year there will be two more cammys on the road in Adelaide

[Nev68]

That is so cool. Are you booked in to Regency. How long is the wait at the moment. I was told the other week that it isn't long at all. Mines very close but I've run out of money right at the pointy end. It's frustrating coz I know how much I've wasted along the way doing things twice!
Anyway hopefully by the end of the year there will be two more cammys on the road in Adelaide

Haven't booked into Regency yet.
Just making sure I have everything done

I'll look forward to seeing you out on the street.
I want to make sure I've got mine going for the Zippel cruises which start in October.

Nev

[blackoutsteve]

Last year everytime I started the Camaro the next door neighbors called the police. I Had around 9 visits over a month period.

Thank fxck I don't live around jerks like that. I'm lucky to have great neighbors around me. We all get along great.

[camaro_1967rs]

Thank fxck I don't live around jerks like that. I'm lucky to have great neighbors around me. We all get along great.

It stops being funny after the first hand full, I had to keep applogising to the police for being called out here and wasting their time.

[Nev68]

Still doing the 101 little jobs to get my car ready.

The only thing sort of worth a photo is the sill trims I fitted yesterday.

Before fitting
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/beforefittingSilltrim.jpg

Fitting the trim retainer
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/FittingSilltrimretainer.jpg

Trim fitted (Other side fitted to of course)
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Silltrimfitted1.jpg

Doesn't look like much but I like the trim detail

Nev

[blackoutsteve]

I love 'em. I have a GM pair (and a full set of GM wheel arch moulds too) that I can't wait to fit. Had them for over 15 years now! About US$25 a mould each then.

[cluxford]

Nev that really does look good, can you take a pic further out so we can see the full effect

[Nev68]

Here she is on the way to get the front end checked over and a wheel alignment
More $'s

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/towheelalignment.jpg

Hopefully all goes well
If plans work out this time next week I'll have an exhaust as well.

Nev

[J.J.]

"if it ain't got chrome, take it home"

looking good!

[Nev68]

"if it ain't got chrome, take it home"

looking good!

Thanks, it got a few compliments today.
It was nice and sunny and the paint & chrome looks good in the sun.

As you can see it's still a bit high in the rear end but that can be fixed later.

Exhaust next Friday (if all goes to plan)

Nev

[67cammy]

Looking good Nev. Yes it was very nice weather for moving a car around today. Lucky you didn't have it booked in for tomorrow. More towing fees! Did you decide on stainless for the exhaust?

[blackoutsteve]

"if it ain't got chrome, take it home"

He he, that's not the one I know..

Nev, just make sure it Goes, otherwise sure, chrome the hell out of it! ;)

[Nev68]

Looking good Nev. Yes it was very nice weather for moving a car around today. Lucky you didn't have it booked in for tomorrow. More towing fees! Did you decide on stainless for the exhaust?

Yep, more towing fees.
Found a bloke who is into hotrods and has a tilt tray so he sems to take a bit more care than others I've dealt with
Cost $100 for the tow and $90 for the front end work.
Not a bad day for $'s compared to some other days.

I am going for the Stainless on the exhaust.
I plan to keep the car so I may as well invest a few more bucks for something that will last a bit longer.

Nev

[WILD68]

Looking good Nev you must be close to goin to that dreaded Regency place you talk about.:D

[Nev68]

He he, that's not the one I know..

Nev, just make sure it Goes, otherwise sure, chrome the hell out of it! ;)

Only bling is on the outside, and that is as per factory, the under bonnet looks relatively dull

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Enginewithaircleaner1a.jpg

....but it goes:D

Nev

[Nev68]

Looking good Nev you must be close to goin to that dreaded Regency place you talk about.:D

Yes, getting closer.
Talked to a couple of blokes today who told me more horror stories about Regency Park.

Everyone takes joy in trying to worry the sh!t out of me:(

Blokes being rejected for (get this) a finned trans pan (Wot tha)
and another for chrome rocker covers and another for lightly tinted glass.

Trying to get on the Bay to Birdwood run and that's on September 27th and then theres another run on October 4th so I got to keep moving to get it registered.

Nev

[blackoutsteve]

Only bling is on the outside, and that is as per factory, the under bonnet looks relatively dull

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/our%20camaro/Enginewithaircleaner1a.jpg

....but it goes:D

Nev

Dull, no way.. I love it. ;)

[67cammy]

Yep I agree. There's something to be said about a stock engine bay. Looks REAL nice

[chevelle]

Nev, you will be allowed to run chrome rocker covers and aircleaner due that 68 Z/28's having them from factory.
Looks good.
Have my 68 entered for Bay to Birdwood.

[Nev68]

Nev, you will be allowed to run chrome rocker covers and aircleaner due that 68 Z/28's having them from factory.
Looks good.
Have my 68 entered for Bay to Birdwood.

Thanks for the info
I have heard so many different stories for different people.
I wonder if some of the knock backs are based on the attitude of the person presenting the car.
If you act like a pr!ck, I am sure you will be treated as such

My plan is to go loaded with all the factual evidence I can regarding options etc and if I get any questions on any parts of the car hopefully I'll be able to answer them and also show some reference material to back me up.

Hopefully I'll see you at the Bay to Bridwood.
I have even reserved my number plate at Transport SA
"6T8", sorry Barry I had this idea even before I saw your plate.

Nev

[chevelle]

Nev, some of them havnt a clue, so like you said, bring all your info. Up to you to have pics and info.
If they see any non standard items they will knock it back.
I will keep a lookout for you nev.
Should be a good day.

[Nev68]

Got the new exahust fitted yesteday

Went for a 2.5" stainless system with a balance pipe
Still a bit loud (?) I think I'll have to measure the noise level just to be sure

Here she is arriving at the exahust shop
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Gongtotheexhaustshop.jpg

Here's the temporary set up so I could keep my eardrums before getting the "real" exahust
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Tempexhuast.jpg

... and here's the new exahust
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/newxhaust2.jpg

Getting a bit closer now

[blackoutsteve]

Nice exahust!:p
Well done. Looking good. Glad you got stainless too.

[67cammy]

Nice Nev. Whats the name of the tow company you use. I notice they have Hot Rod and Custom specialist on there. I had a guy once that had big metal hooks that he just threw down next to the car! I nearly had a coronary!

[Nev68]

Nice Nev. Whats the name of the tow company you use. I notice they have Hot Rod and Custom specialist on there. I had a guy once that had big metal hooks that he just threw down next to the car! I nearly had a coronary!

Dave,
Mild to Wild towing
0411 613 694

The bloke's name is Neville (same name but not me), he has a couple of his own hot rods so he knows that people like us want the car taken care of.
Cost $150 all up for the tow (and it wasn't a short tow)

Nev

[Nev68]

Nice exahust!:p
Well done. Looking good. Glad you got stainless too.

Yep, I'm quite happy
A good job at a reasonable price.

Nev

[blackoutsteve]

Dude, you spelled exhaust like "exahust" so I was making fun. At first I thought it was a typo.. :D

[Nev68]

Dude, you spelled exhaust like "exahust" so I was making fun. At first I thought it was a typo.. :D

I am not much of a typist, I'm always finding new ways to spell the same word.

Nev

[AUSCAMARO]

Very nice Nev... What mufflers did you end up using? And how have you got it exiting the rear?

Mitch

[Nev68]

Very nice Nev... What mufflers did you end up using? And how have you got it exiting the rear?

Mitch

Thanks Mitch.
Muffler are Stainless Megaflow

The pipes come out like this

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/newxhaust4.jpg

Nev

[cluxford]

Nev, that looks really nice

You'll need to get some audio and post it up for us to hear.

[Nev68]

I know it's not much, but I spent Sunday making a new accelerator cable bracket.
The old one just wasn't right, the cable would reach the carb & the mount to cable location seemd to be the issue.

I used a 6 cylinder Camaro cable

Here's a couple of photo's.
It may help someone.

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Accelcablebracket.jpg

Before mounting the bracket to the inlet manifold
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Enginewithoutaccelcable.jpg

Bracket and cable mounted
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Enginewithaccelcable.jpg


Boring?
Maybe, but this is one of the hundred's of little jobs I am ticking off the list so I can finally drive this thing!

Nev

[blackoutsteve]

Boring? Not all. Very nice. Looks like the factory part, the way I like it. ;)

[Nev68]

Boring? Not all. Very nice. Looks like the factory part, the way I like it. ;)

Thanks Steve.
Factory look is the plan.
I've got some original looking carb inlet lines ready to go but I've got to do someting about the chrome fuel regulator and anodised AN fittings now.
Any ideas?

Nev

[67cammy]

Nev can't you just take it off and do some cheap rubber hoses to go through and then change them after. Or does your pump really need the reg.

[blackoutsteve]

You could hide the reg perhaps.. And Caustic Soda will take off the anodizing if you prefer a dull silver finish. -or you can buy them silver or black.. Lot's of options these days..

I mounted the reg where the mechanical fuel pump was, and these are how the AN fittings look when stripped of their anodizing.
I'm using a hard line, but rubber would still look good.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2815/engineblackout175.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engineblackout175.jpg)

[blackoutsteve]

Are you using a mechanical or electric pump?

[Nev68]

Nev can't you just take it off and do some cheap rubber hoses to go through and then change them after. Or does your pump really need the reg.

Dave, I need the regulator for the Holley mechanical pump (130gph)

Nev

[Nev68]

Are you using a mechanical or electric pump?

Steve,
I have to use the mechanical pump (this is SA!!), it's a Holley mechanical pump (130gph)

Nev

[67cammy]

Oh OK. I hope they don't ping you for the reg itself. How did you go with the flexplate cover? All sorted

[Nev68]

Oh OK. I hope they don't ping you for the reg itself. How did you go with the flexplate cover? All sorted

I hope so too, I might see if I can change the location or make it less conspicuous somehow.
I have a flex plate cover, a steel one this time.
I'll have a go at fitting it on the weekend and crank the motor over by hand to make sure it is clear before I start it.

Nev

[Nev68]

Ok, so I have fitted my cowl hood air cleaner seal.
I have seen several ways to fit this seal.
Have I fitted it correctly?
This is the only way I could make the seal positively locate

Underside of upper Air cleaner section with seal fitted
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Aircleanersealunderside.jpg

Top side of of upper secton with seal fitted
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Aircleanersealtopside.jpg

Air cleaner assy fitted
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Aircleanersealfitted.jpg

You can see that the seal is a bit wrinkled and it sort of feels like it is inside out, but as I said, this is the only way I could get it to locate

[blackoutsteve]

Pretty sure that's correct..
Looking good Nev. :D

[69SS]

Looking real nice Nev. I really like the exhaust, thinking something similar but in 3in for mine.. Looks like a real PITA to get over the pits in SA.. I hope its a lot easier in WA, I mean a lot, because I have heaps of mods :(

[Nev68]

Looking real nice Nev. I really like the exhaust, thinking something similar but in 3in for mine.. Looks like a real PITA to get over the pits in SA.. I hope its a lot easier in WA, I mean a lot, because I have heaps of mods :(

Thanks.
I am relativley happy with the exhaust, there not much room and mine was only 2.5".
I hope I don't have too many issues getting through inspection.
From what I hear it is not so strict in WA
It would be my dream to drop a Gen 3 or 4 into mine but that won't happen as long as I live in SA and keep it LH drive

[Nev68]

Pretty sure that's correct..
Looking good Nev. :D

Thanks Steve.
I hope it's correct , it's the only way ot makes sense, even though I have seen different ways to fit this seal.

By the way, I found out the motor came from a 60 series truck
So she's truckin' tough.

[Nev68]

Finally!
Since we have had some nice weather I went and got a permit to legally drive our '68 on the road to take it for some repairs. ( one of many options in the "reason for permit" section)

The wife took some video of the start up and leaving the shed, so once I figure out how to load video up I'll post it.
A little strange driving the LH drive but I am sure I'll get used to it.
Found out the old starter motor isn't really up to the job once the motor has a bit of temperature in it so the starter will be replaced this weekend.
Had a few other minor issues to sort out like weeping from the lower radiator hose (not quite tight enough), small leak from the fuel pump gasket (again not quite tight enough)
Other than that a good time had by all.

Still smilin'

[WILD68]

Finally!
Since we have had some nice weather I went and got a permit to legally drive our '68 on the road to take it for some repairs. ( one of many options in the "reason for permit" section)

The wife took some video of the start up and leaving the shed, so once I figure out how to load video up I'll post it.
A little strange driving the LH drive but I am sure I'll get used to it.
Found out the old starter motor isn't really up to the job once the motor has a bit of temperature in it so the starter will be replaced this weekend.
Had a few other minor issues to sort out like weeping from the lower radiator hose (not quite tight enough), small leak from the fuel pump gasket (again not quite tight enough)
Other than that a good time had by all.

Still smilin'

Good on ya Nev its a good feeling hey!!! Just upload the Videos to youtube and then post the link.

[67cammy]

Nev that's fantastic. I didn't know you can get a permit without it first going through Regency. Does that apply to anyone or only those on historic rego. Get that video up soon :)

[18htan]

Hey Nev... Thats fantastic mate!

I have no doubt your still smilin'

[chevelle]

Nev that's fantastic. I didn't know you can get a permit without it first going through Regency. Does that apply to anyone or only those on historic rego. Get that video up soon :)

You cant if its LHD and never had an inspection, they only issue a permit for the day of the inspection at Regency to take it to and from there and even then you have to apply in writting to Regency for approval for the permit, they call it a
APPLICATION FOR SINGLE TRIP LEFT HAND DRIVE EXEMPTION. The other reason is for a quoation on a right hand drive conversion. I wasnt even allowed to use the Trade plate on my car without applying for an exemption. They wouldnt even let me use the trade plate or get a permit to try the car out before inspection even if i applied for the exemption. So i end up going to Regency with a car that ends up having little leaks like yours Nev in which started while driving the car to Regency and they fail me on those faults, so have to rebook and go through the whole process again, so many arguements i have had with the chief engineer at Regency.
For right hand drive you should be ok you will have to check as they have changed laws since i got one on a right hand drive before i got it inspected at Regency.
Nev you got lucky and rego office did not pick up on this if you didnt have the exemption and let it through.
Once you have the permit its there problem, enjoy it.

Having Historic Rego doesn't matter, you need the car inspected to gain Historic Rego and car also has to be 100% stock as per factory for Historic Rego.

[Nev68]

Thanks for the kind words everyone.
Still working on the video but here's some pictures at the servo where I pumped up the tyres.
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Attheservo1.jpg

Me being happy
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/Attheservo2.jpg

[Nev68]

You cant if its LHD and never had an inspection, they only issue a permit for the day of the inspection at Regency to take it to and from there and even then you have to apply in writting to Regency for approval for the permit, they call it a
APPLICATION FOR SINGLE TRIP LEFT HAND DRIVE EXEMPTION. The other reason is for a quoation on a right hand drive conversion. I wasnt even allowed to use the Trade plate on my car without applying for an exemption. They wouldnt even let me use the trade plate or get a permit to try the car out before inspection even if i applied for the exemption. So i end up going to Regency with a car that ends up having little leaks like yours Nev in which started while driving the car to Regency and they fail me on those faults, so have to rebook and go through the whole process again, so many arguements i have had with the chief engineer.
For right hand drive you should be ok you will have to check as they have changed laws since i got one on a right hand drive before i got it inspected at Regency.
Nev you got lucky and rego office did not pick up on this if you didnt have the exemption and let it through.
Once you have the permit its there problem, enjoy it.

Having Historic Rego doesn't matter, you need the car inspected to gain Historic Rego and car also has to be 100% stock as per factory for Historic Rego.

Mate, I am not going to argue with the blokes at Regency, I just filled out the permit form and ticked the LH drive box, paid my $50, they gave me the permit and I got outta there.

Incredible that when I was there at Regency there were 2 hot rods with 15" wide rear tyres, obviously overworked donks etc, etc. and I am not allowed any mods because I want to retain LH drive.
WTF?!:confused:
Anyway I am still happy to finally get the old girl out there.:D

[Nev68]

Nev that's fantastic. I didn't know you can get a permit without it first going through Regency. Does that apply to anyone or only those on historic rego. Get that video up soon :)

Dave,
I just filled out the form as one of my mates did the same thing with his Ducati he imported from the U.S.
He used permits to ride it to get mechanical repairs etc.
This is the form;
http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/pdfs/MR2.pdf

[chevelle]

Mate, I am not going to argue with the blokes at Regency, I just filled out the permit form and ticked the LH drive box, paid my $50, they gave me the permit and I got outta there.

Incredible that when I was there at Regency there were 2 hot rods with 15" wide rear tyres, obviously overworked donks etc, etc. and I am not allowed any mods because I want to retain LH drive.
WTF?!:confused:
Anyway I am still happy to finally get the old girl out there.:D

I agree Nev, if they give you the permit just take it and enjoy it. Thats the dramas of having a LHD car in South Australia, you cant modify it, it sucks but if was RHD you can do all the mods.
I remember 20 years ago getting a 21 day permit on my 68 SS camaro, the good old days when never used to tick the LHD box and they gave me a permit all for $20 dollars, used to take it to All American Day and Caddy cruise.
Car looks good Nev. Are you going to take it on the Bay to Birdwood.

[USA-69Z]

Nev , it looks great out on the street. It will turn plenty of heads !


Gav

[AUSCAMARO]

Sweet As Nev... Gotta be happy with that!

[tonner]

Congrats Nev, nothing like the maiden voyage :D

Greg

[Nev68]

I agree Nev, if they give you the permit just take it and enjoy it. Thats the dramas of having a LHD car in South Australia, you cant modify it, it sucks but if was RHD you can do all the mods.
I remember 20 years ago getting a 21 day permit on my 68 SS camaro, the good old days when never used to tick the LHD box and they gave me a permit all for $20 dollars, used to take it to All American Day and Caddy cruise.
Car looks good Nev. Are you going to take it on the Bay to Birdwood.

The entries are maxed out so I missed out on the Bay to Birdwood.
I might see if I can get the car out though.

[WILD68]

Nev she looks beautiful out of the shed..
I like how it has turned out with the stance and the chromed wheels, wasnt sure on it until i saw the photo in the car park.
When is it goin through regency?

[SYC 427]

Dave,
I just filled out the form as one of my mates did the same thing with his Ducati he imported from the U.S.
He used permits to ride it to get mechanical repairs etc.
This is the form;
http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/pdfs/MR2.pdf

Nev, on that form it states if you tick yes an approval must be obtained from regency park. that form is the lhd exemption single trip only as chevelle said.you may not be covered by insurance if in an accident. Paul Fanning is the only one that can issue these. when i went through for inspection they asked for this form, so i suggest you apply for this he will post out to you. a lot of the rego dept office have no idea about this.

[Nev68]

Nev, on that form it states if you tick yes an approval must be obtained from regency park. that form is the lhd exemption single trip only as chevelle said.you may not be covered by insurance if in an accident. Paul Fanning is the only one that can issue these. when i went through for inspection they asked for this form, so i suggest you apply for this he will post out to you. a lot of the rego dept office have no idea about this.

Thanks for the info.
I have never had so many differing opinions on a car issue before.
Everyone is telling me something different.:confused:
I asked the bloke who greets you at the door at Regency Park, "sure fill out the form"
I asked the bloke who I paid the money to, "do you want a 1 day or 3 day permit?"

I'll wait for the SMASA inspectiona and then go through Regency just to be safe.

[Nev68]

Nev she looks beautiful out of the shed..
I like how it has turned out with the stance and the chromed wheels, wasnt sure on it until i saw the photo in the car park.
When is it goin through regency?

Thanks Jamie.
I don't mind the stance for now, I think it could be a tad lower in the rear.

Regency park?? Good question.
I am trying to line up the club inspection first and then go to Regency.
If it gets too hard, maybe I'll sell it.

[67cammy]

If it gets too hard, maybe I'll sell it.

:D :D I can see that happening....NOT

[Nev68]

:D :D I can see that happening....NOT

You're right Dave, I am just getting a bit frustrated.

[67cammy]

Nev did you figure out the video upload? Itching to see it

[Nev68]

Nev did you figure out the video upload? Itching to see it

I haven't had a chance.
I'll see if I can have a go this weekend

[AUSCAMARO]

I haven't had a chance.
I'll see if I can have a go this weekend

Video???:D

[Nev68]

Video???:D

Getting there.:confused:

[Nev68]

Not sure if this will work but here is a short vid at the start of the maiden voyage
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/th_Camaro1stdrive.jpg (http://s337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/?action=view&current=Camaro1stdrive.flv)

[WILD68]

Not sure if this will work but here is a short vid at the start of the maiden voyage
http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/th_Camaro1stdrive.jpg (http://s337.photobucket.com/albums/n387/nev68/?action=view&current=Camaro1stdrive.flv)

Nice one Nev.. sounds nice.. what Cam have you got in her?

[Nev68]

Nice one Nev.. sounds nice.. what Cam have you got in her?

A stock one:rolleyes:

[chevelle]

Sounds good Nev. Zippel cruise this Saturday night.