Project Hellfire - 68 Camaro Pro-touring Build

[cluxford]

OK all, time for me to join the party. We have a 67 on this borard and a 69...I'm a middle child so I might as well be a "middle" build. Lucky I got the best model of the 3.

A bit of background. I have always wanted a 68 Camaro since I was really little and as many others saw "one crazy summer". Over the years I basically worked out all the little things I wanted and it would be nothing short of a blown big block full on pro-street animal. 3 years ago I even paid a deposit on one that was tubbed, caged with a 468 BBC blown. But let it go as found out couldn't get it registered.

With 3 years to ponder and do some more research I found I could get some things registered and keep the car close to what I wanted.

So the hunt began for another donor car. That hunt ended in Nov 06 when on Melb cup day I nervously bid on ebay for a 68 Camaro (that you see below)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_1911-1.jpg

The car arrived in Australia in Early March.

I haven't done anything to it yet except go over it and look at what I have bought check out whether it was a good deal.

Paid US$9K for it and $3300 aussie for shipping. Landed cost was $16K aussie not a bad deal in my mind.

So what does it have......this is an interesting read:
All new qtrs all 4 of em
All new roof
All new floors including new boot
All new front inner guards
New carpet
Everything else orginal.
Whilst the panels are good in that they are new (ie really straight - except 1 minor travel dint in rear LH side) the panel gaps leave a little to be desired so they will somehow need to be sorted out.

Doors are really rough. I was hoping frames would be OK but they are rusted through so hunt on for new doors.

The build...what will the car end up as?

I can show potenial "after" photos...my car won't be exactly the same but a sort of combo of various ideas from these cars:
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/67-2.jpg
Love this look, this one was fully tubbed, mine will be just mini tubbed but I am after that stance

Interior will be something like this but not in white
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/2063064_8.jpg


Car may look something like this but not in fluro green...
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/DCP_0951.jpg



What I am building is:
Pro-touring (in no particular order)
632 Ci BBC - crate engine, has been dynoed and is on the boat on the way here. 816Hp (0r 607 Kw). Will run dual quads with Hilborn scoop through bonnet
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/MerlinLimitedEdition.jpg

T400
Art Morrison sub frame with C5 Vette front end and 13" Wilwood 6 spots
Here is a thread that shows the sub frame
http://www.usmuscle.com.au/Forum/showthread.php?t=114
And here is a photo
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/MG_3291.jpg

4 link rear with 9" (and Wilwood discs also)
17" Budnik Bladerunner wheels 8" front and 11" back (at least 315 tyres)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Bladerunner.jpg

So car will be minitubbed
No cage (so will run sub frame connectors)
Exterior will be totally smooth, no chrome, shaved handles, no cutters
Grille will be a 69 Camaro RS grille
Interior will see a custom made metal dash, with console to run entire length of care up to rear parcel shelf
4 custom made bucket seats (will be customised using orginal seats but they will look way different)
I have a few other tricks planned to keep the car very smooth and basically everything hidden
Obviously the above is not comprehensive but I guess you get the idea
Car will be painted candy apple yellow with ghost flames

Week after Easter the work begins.
Got 1 week off to strip the car right back to bare basics (ie every nut and bolt removed) then off to the shop.

Let me be up front to say my role in this build is ideas and phone calls (and spending money). I've tried to do cars in the past and I am OK but not the quality I want on this so I am handing it over for all stages to experts.

I expect the build to take 18 months at the least.

More photos can be found at:
http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/

Obviously once I get going I will keep posting updates.

Anyone interested I am going to have a lot of original 1968 Camaro stuff that will not get used in this build. Therefore if anything is of interest drop me a line. It does have a running 327 SBC and a powerglide that are for sale now.

Thanks for taking the time to read about my car.

Rgds
Chris

[EAT-30T]

Good to see you finally join the party!

If I showed you the 68 my friend bought for similar money....well you did exceptional! :) IMO I know what you mean about panel gaps! My 69 had new 1/4's put on and the gaps were no good at all.... we spent alot of hours correcting those mistakes... needless to say I would try to avoid buying a car with new sheetmetal installed for that reason......

Can't wait to see this bad boy take shape! It sure as hell sounds like its gonna be something!!!!

[SirGeo]

Great deal with the car... i'm sure you'll be able to find some doors...

Looks like you have everything planned, from body style, subframe and motor.. Do you have all the workshops you want to do work on it lined up?

Sounds like it's going to be a tuff looking (and going) car when your done.. Keep us up to date, i'm sure plenty of people are going to be interested in how you go with all these bolt on custom bits.. i know i'm keen to see how the chassi goes ;)

Steve.

[cluxford]

All work will be done by 2 shops:
Stylerod Panels in Croydon and
Sean Mullins Racecars in Kilsyth

Ordering sub frame today

[SirGeo]

I'll make sure i visit them during the build to sneak a peak at your car :p

[cluxford]

Please do and share thoughts and ideas as it goes along....it will be with Peter in the next 2 weeks

[EAT-30T]

Grille will be a 69 Camaro RS grille

Am I reading this right???? :confused:

[cluxford]

Yep you sure are, I love the 69 RS Grille....I know many will think I am ruining a 68, I like the 68 RS grille but prefer the 69, but hate the 69 rear end and rear qtrs, prefer the 68.....so I am building the best of both

[cluxford]

Latest update 7th April 07

Spent the last 2 days literally pulling the car apart. All interior is out. Everything except the heater box, wiring loom, steering column and pedal box. Everything else has been removed, down to every last screw.

All chrome trim on outside, all bumpers etc. Would have removed grille but we always have one stripped bolt don't we...mine I can only reach with a tube socket so guess that one will wait.

Need to talk to shop on Tue as they want me to leave panels on at this stage so car will probably go to shop on Tue or Wed "as is".

All running gear still in it.

Will post photos tomorrow.

What I love that I have found......

All panels really straight except for minor ding in rear quarter that will easily roll out (looks like someone bumped it with some heavy it's not bad). And front lower (ie lowest under grille) valence panel as a hit is one side, again very easy to repair. Everything else (except doors) is eiether brand new or really straight. Even heater box, radiator support etc all brand new....it really is a new car bar a few panels...all repos so panel gaps are the biggest issue to resolve.

Anyway photos tomorrow

Rgds
Chris

[Customcam]

Hey Clux seen you over at Lat G a while ago
good choice on the front clip.

[cluxford]

Thanks these forums are a good way to share ideas and learn

[SirGeo]

Stripping is the easiest part.. just remembering where it all went is the tricky part :p

And if the doors and those small dings are all you found.. you've done well...

speaking of the doors found any yet?

As for the gaps, it's what everyone seems to complain about.. with genuine or repo.. repo just seem to be that little bit worse, nothing some spacers can't fix i'm sure ;)

What is the quality of the non-genuine front guards like? i might be going that route as well.

[cluxford]

Front guards are really solid....come round check em out. Car will be here for a few weeks.

No doors yet, haven't called the guy in Canberra yet, have looked at some repos though and they feel strong...so might go that path given everything else is damn straight.

Next update about to come through

[cluxford]

OK latest update...well really photos of last 2 days work.

I know stripping is the easy part.....

First off 2 photos that show only panel damage on whole car:

first brand new repo rear qtr that has been "bumped" see red circles:
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2158_red.jpg

Second front valence, small hit on right hand side, see it's lifted up the bumper bar support....this will need to be straightened:
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2159_red.jpg

The rest are just random photos of interior stripped out. The more I work on this car the happier I am, it's all straight and no rust bar the doors......wow !!!!

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2155.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2154.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2153.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2152.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2151.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2150.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2149.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2148.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2147.jpg

[SirGeo]

floors look nice and solid.. and whoever did the roof done it properly..

Also you might want to check the price of a new front valance, i was going to repair mine (minor dings) but saw they only cost $64.95 ($US) brand new.. all depends on how fussy you want to be, and how easy it is to fix the current damage..

As for the 2 dings on the guard.. i wouldn't stress :p they are in a nice and easy spot to get at from the behind to knock back in place ;)

[cluxford]

New front sub frame purchased today $7200 AUD.....(after FX and shipping)....not cheap...wait till the wife sees this one :eek: ....but I think it is a good addition to the build

Now just gotta wait for the slow boat to arrive

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/MG_3291.jpg

[Helli]

Hey Mate, I just joined this site, been browsing for a while and its good to see some new members here and projects going.

I like your thoughts and plans for the build, however was wondering if you have a budget set out for this beast.....if so would you like to share. I can see some serious $$$ here to achieve the result your after.....not that there's any thing wrong with that :)

I'm hoping to get into a Camaro myself this year, or next... and whilst I'd love to build something like your plan, I got to face it at the end of the day, we all know that money talks. SO I have been thinking about the old build vs buy....

Anyway, was wondering if you have a plan on the budget side, broken down like $ for bodywork, $ for engine, $ for interior, $ for wheels and suspension etc,etc.

[EAT-30T]

if you can find a car that suits you ... your better buying.... I could only imagine this particular build to be an almost $100K build...... these cars need alot of money.. so if you don't quite have the bank roll.. your best getting a nice turn key driver car.

[Helli]

Yeah...i was thinking 100k easy..... Looking forward to seeing it come together.

[cluxford]

Ha ha you guys.....$100K I would love to get out of this for $100K. Reality is it will be more like $200K.

Here is what HAS been spent just so far:

1. $16K to buy the car in the US and get it landed into Australia
2. $21K Engine - full turnkey crate motor landed in Australia - but I still need to spend more on it
3. $7.5K new subframe

So that's $45K there already and haven't even started to really build it.

The rest the estimates are as follows:
Body work and paint - $50K. It's pretty straight so hoping can get some change out of this
Rear end inc diff $6K
Tranny $4K
Wheels and tires - $8K (getting custom made Budniks)
Engine $5K
Brakes $5K
Steering conversion $2K
Interior $10K

Grand total = $45K already spent plus further estimates of $90K = $135K

The budget I negotiated with the real boss (aka my wife) was $150K but I expect I am under estimating in nearly all areas hence why I believe it will be closer to $200K.

That's why it will take at leats 2 years to build as I don't have that cash lying around it's all coming off the home loan

[EAT-30T]

Ha ha you guys.....$100K I would love to get out of this for $100K. Reality is it will be more like $200K.


Sorry I forgot your not building it yourself.....

$50K on body.......:confused:

[cluxford]

I want it laser straight plus will be full custom metal dash integrated console from dash to rear parcel shelf....

All paint will be House of Colour Candy Yellow with ghost flames.....inside and out...

Even thinking of doing full metal hood liner

[Helli]

Thanks for sharing. Good to see you're being truley realistic on the budget, and hopefully won't have to bail out half way through the build.

Looks like it is going to be a top shelf car.

You also got the approval of the finacial controller which is half the battle.:)

Looking forward to seeing the progress.

[cluxford]

Finally taking the next step....car goes to the panel shop this morning to finally start full dismantle, soda blasting and then sitting down and mapping out all the changes, first stop 4 link rear and tubs....

[muggz]

let us know through pics how the soda blasting went Cluxford... im getting my '68 soda blasted when panels are pegged on in the next couple weeks. how far is your subframe from australia?

[cluxford]

Sub frame gets delivered to freight forwarder next Wed...so probably a good 8-10 weeks away, but based on what I was told today I may need to speed that up...will post photos as we progress inc after blasted
Cheers
Chris

[RSZ28]

Hi Mr Cluxford, great progress on the 68. The picture of the inside of the new roof looks as if it is fibreglass weave or something like that. Is it a glass or CF roof panel, or does it have some kind of liner fitted on the inside?

Cheers.

[cluxford]

No fibreglass in the car all metal, just ripped the liner out of it ready for blasting...

[SirGeo]

I was going to say looks like the insulation/liner.. my car had the same.. arseof a job to get off properly.. tossing up if i should replace it :p

[cluxford]

Motor gets unloaded form the container today !!!!

Been 6 months getting here...but it's finally here.

I'm away next week so don't get to see it till I get back.

For those who don't know it's a:
632 Cube BBC
Merlin III
tall deck
dynoed at 816Hp and 825 ft/Lb torque

[RSZ28]

Mr Cluxford...Bill Mitchell 632...awesome motor....how do you get the 632 on the road in Vic? In NSW you can go +15% on an original engine....which is listed as typically the 396 or maybe a COPO 427 for a 68 & 69 (though you rarely see any doc that says 427's came in 68's so rare as rocking horse doo doo) which might get one to 490 cubes...but 632?

Cubz rule!


Motor gets unloaded form the container today !!!!

Been 6 months getting here...but it's finally here.

I'm away next week so don't get to see it till I get back.

For those who don't know it's a:
632 Cube BBC
Merlin III
tall deck
dynoed at 816Hp and 825 ft/Lb torque

[cluxford]

How do I get it registered with 632 cubes......no idea...will figure that out when it comes time to rego it........if worst comes to worse I'm not sure they could really tell.

the 632 is just a tall deck big block, exact same block as a 427 truck engine, just bored out more.....

So unless they are going to pull off the heads and measure the bore I guess I could always just tell em it's a 427....

Does anyone know....how do they check engine capacity ?

[SirGeo]

i'd go with reg'ing it as a 427 ;)

[69camaro]

In NSW you can go +15% on an original engine....

% Increase on original dispacement is based on the assumption that you are leaving the rest of the car standard. As far as I can see this doesn't apply to you Cluxford... Basically you will need to Engineer the car to handle the 632 including sub frame strength, brakes, suspensions etc etc. Thats what your engineers certificate verifies. This is exactly how Hot rodders run big blocks in a 1920's or 30's chassis. Those things came out with little four bangers that wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.

Go balls in Cluxford, work with your engineer and you'll have no probs reg'd as a 632. Just my opinion, but I am an engineer.

[cluxford]

That's what I had assumed.....engineers report for everything.....money already spent so motor going in no matter what.....

[RSZ28]

Great to hear! That is one beautiful big block.

That's what I had assumed.....engineers report for everything.....money already spent so motor going in no matter what.....

[Helli]

So, got any shots of it ... the motor that is.... the actual motor in the crate, not the internet snap shot.

[cluxford]

Finally some progress and an update !!!!

Went to the shop today, camera in hand.

car totally stripped, was supposed to have been blasted but got delayed so was hanging from shop roof.

Took 2 photos, will post later...then camera dies, wife been bloody taking snaps of 18 month old daughter on not charged the camera.

Motor arrived yesterday at shop, gor 1 crappy snap with mobile phone camera will post that later also.

All I can say is one Fn huge motor and the 1050 CFM Dominator sitting on top is literally massive, you can loose a hand down one of the chambers....

Pics to follow later tonight and more pics next week once camera charged and car blasted.....

Happy days !!!

Chris

[Helli]

...then camera dies, wife been bloody taking snaps of 18 month old daughter on not charged the camera.



haha How dare your wife take photos of your daughter, doesn't she know where the priorities are...

Looking forward to seeing the pics...when you've got the camera situation under control, that is.

[cluxford]

Photos of DSE minitubs and sub frame connectors...both arrived the other day

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2437.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2436.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2435.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2434.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2433.jpg



Here is ****ty photo of engine taken with mobile phone after camera battery died

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/77L50009.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/77L50008.jpg

Engine is huge..carby is easily biggest I have ever seen...sorry for poor qulity will get more next time I am down at shop


Here is car stripped and about to leave for blaster....it has now been blasted and is in red/brown undercoat to go off to chassis guy for 4 link and diff...will get more photos next week....

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2602.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2601.jpg

I'm told it had basically no rust...excellent

[EAT-30T]

Killer!!

[SirGeo]

No rust is a great bonus! doesn't look like it needs any major body work.. that will save you a few months and $$$$ :p

How much wider are those tubs going to let you go with you rubber?

[cluxford]

I can technically fit 335s, but i will be running a 10" rim and 325 tyres....

[cluxford]

Ordered my wheels today.

Was going to go Budnik Bladerunners

But 12 weeks to produce them and get em here and chassis guy needs wheels now...also be close to $5K by the time they are at my house
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/Bladerunner.jpg

So instead I went for Dragway Indy's. Always really liked These and Convo Pro wheels, they don't make Convo Pro's in 17 inch rims, but they do make Indy's.

Will be done and picking up in under 3 weeks and only $3K.....

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/indy.jpg

Stoked !!

[cluxford]

Picked up my wheels last night...need the rears to fab up the 9"

Not quite as deep a dish as I wanted but need a raised mounting pad to clear the C5 vette calipre....

17 x 11 rear - 5" backspace with 1.3" raised mounting pad
17 x 7 front - 5" backspace with 1.3" raised mounting pad

means basically no dish on the front (ie less than 1 inch)
and about a 4.5" inch dish on the rear

Photo of the rear rims...

Will post more tomorrow as 325 x 45 tyres going on today

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2738.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2740.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2742.jpg

[SirGeo]

They look sweet... Were the depths and dish a standard size they gave you to choose from? or could you have asked for a custom setup?

[cluxford]

Totally custom, you can ask for whatever you want, even the raised mounting pad was machined to the exact size I wanted. At the 15 inch rim they are all steel aaand made to set sizes, at 17 inch they are 100% billet and you can order whatever you want.

It is also a really cool drive up to Kinglake to pick em up from the factory

[EAT-30T]

Thats Big Gun! :)

[SirGeo]

Totally custom, you can ask for whatever you want, even the raised mounting pad was machined to the exact size I wanted. At the 15 inch rim they are all steel aaand made to set sizes, at 17 inch they are 100% billet and you can order whatever you want.

It is also a really cool drive up to Kinglake to pick em up from the factory



hmmm.. interesting.. might go for a drive one day and have a looksy...

[cluxford]

Dropped the wheels off today....more photos of car

stripped, blasted and in primer....

inner wells cut out as start of process to get mini tubs in

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2773.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2774.jpg



Rust spot in corner....had one of these in each corner...rear one removed as part of mintubbing so only 2 front rust patches left in whole car....

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2775.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2776.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2777.jpg

[EAT-30T]

Looking good.... Progress is a good thing :)

My one had rusted the toe boards as well... usually its between the subframe mount and the floor.... they must get water/moisture trapped in between??

[cluxford]

Got a few more goodies this week.....

Bare with me....bit of a long post.

Front end also arrived from the US this week...going to get it Fri will post pics...


OK first off.

Discs and Calipers arrived this week.
330mm fronts, 300mm rears
C5 vette calipers all round

Fronts
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2793.jpg

Rears
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2794.jpg

Rear calipers (with handbrake)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2792.jpg


Also arrived from the US was my new polished dual quad manifold and dual 600 CFM endura shine carbies

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2799.jpg

Got 2 of these carbies - that endura shine is great

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2795.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_2796.jpg


Hopefully 4 link and 9" and mini tubs will be done before Xmas.....then we get serious and start mocking up.

It's finally starting to get some real progress !!!

[camaro_1967rs]

Discs and Calipers arrived this week.
330mm fronts, 300mm rears
C5 vette calipers all round


Where did you source your brake kits?

I purchased the CPP kit with stub axles and all bearings installed like yours, I have single pot callipers but large ones, thinking of upgrading as they look really small against the 20" rims.

[cluxford]

Got em from Hoppers Stoppers $1300 front and $1300 rear.

Discs are DBA and calipers are PBR...all Aussie made

Rgds
Chris

[RSZ28]

Got em from Hoppers Stoppers $1300 front and $1300 rear.

Discs are DBA and calipers are PBR...all Aussie made

Rgds
Chris

Chris,

Do the calipers bolt straight up to your new stub axles on the new front end? I cant quite recall if your new front end included corvette control arms and stub, or tube control arms and a drop axle.

Thanks.

[cluxford]

Yes they do, the front end has 2" drop axles with designed for C5 Vette...mine will bolt straight up

Front end was supposed to be delivered on Tue to Panel Shop...just got back and it's not there still with shipper...bummer was hoping to get a good look at it today

[cluxford]

Finally after 4 months gathering dust in the chassis shop I have some significant progress to show......I'm really stoked, the next 2 weeks are going to be fun.....

Actions to be completed are DSE Minitubs (I'll come back to this), 9" rear, 4 link.

But I also said I wanted it lowest legal height all round (ie 100mm) so in order to achieve that we are mocking it up. That means, discs on all round, front sub frame in, motor bolted in and transmission bolted in, with wheels on all round and will put 1 front guard on this week also.

Obviously it will all come off again, but will look good

In the photo's below the lowest point of the front sub frame is 100mm clear, as is the rear end. The rear frame rail hasn't been notched yet, so the tire will ultimately go in about another 1/2 inch inside the wheel arch.

Now the problem, 100mm is damn low, only gives me 1" suspension travel in front coil over and only 1" clearance inside the rear inner wheel arch.

Suggestion is go up 1" all round and have clearance at about 150mm off the ground. But if I do that there will be a gap between rear tire and wheel arch which I did not want.

I can get around this but I need to replace the entire rear inner wheel arches (ie not use the DSE tubs, but fab some up). I may go this way but will see once it is mocked up with everything in it and 150mm clearance...expect those photos later this week.

I love the way it looks in the photos...damn low on 17" rims.....

All right ready for some eye candy....first time I have seen the AME front sub frame in the flesh....wow what a piece of work......

More photos later in the week

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3073.jpg

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[muggz]

Man thats very hot! I love the subframe, Good to see they utilised the C5 arms and spindles very well!

[RSZ28]

That is a work of art Mr Luxford. Gorgeous piece of engineering. The car is looking great. Not long now before you have that mountain motor mounted up for some more shots without the guards....

[cluxford]

OK latest update....left the camera at home by mistake so no pics today but got to go back Mon for some more alignment discussions.

Latest is:

Everything is mocked up (loosely put in / on)
Discs are on
Wheels are on but not without a dash to Kinglake to get 12 mm wheel nuts instead of 7/16
T400 in
and then the big problem....632 cube motor in...sort of....here is the list of issues
1. Dizzy is hard up against firewall. I'm putting in a new smooth firewall anyway so will need to set it back 1/2 inch
2. Sump hits power steering rack at the front...undid bolts and dropped rack 1/4 inch and motor still hits and needs another 1/4 to "bolt" up to frame mounts....current plan is to rip off sump and notch it at front by about 1 inch (as long as we can clear the mains caps)....other options is 1/2 inch on the sump and raise motor on mounts by 1/2 inch .... but if I do that then trans hits the tunnel so may need to modify the tunnel a bit to accomodate

Anyway they aren't big issues just time consuming. We will make it fit

Car looks great 100mm off the ground all round, mocking up front guard on Mon to ensure front tyre clearance on fender.....

Rear DSE minitubs won't work cause of the high profile tyre so now going full tubs and new rails...so that job just got way bigger.....

So if anyone wants some cheap DSE Minitubs brand new never used ...they will be for sale

car will be out of chassis shop by end Feb !!!

Will post some serious pics on Mon.....100mm is damn low.....speed humps might be a problem.....but damn it looks sexy

[RSZ28]

Kooool! Looking forward to the piccies. 100mm....its legal so must be ok right?

[tonner]

Very nice, have worked out the problem with engine placement yet, I have a 509 Merlin 3 with a glide in a standard chassis no problem, would it be worth talking to Art Morrison to get their input. The car is shaping up a treat keep the pics coming.:)

[cluxford]

Is that 509 a tall deck ? That's my problem the block is a tall deck so longer stroke is the problem, the sump is a lot deeper....

But I'm not worried some massaging and it'll be in

[tonner]

No I believe it to be a standard deck.
As you have already researched the sub frames is there much difference between the Art Morrison and the DSE? And what rear end are you using

Regards
Greg

[cluxford]

Cool, standard deck will clear no issues, mine has the longer stroke so the oil pan is much deeper

OK, on sub frames.

Performance wise they are almost identical. In fact on Lat-G there is a whole thread that discusses the performance differences in detail if you are interested in a good read...just do a search.

Price wise they are similar.

Almost everyone I talk to says they are the 2 best on the market, although there is a new one coming out that is a secret (seen a few posts) that some of teh guys who do a lot of these say is way better than both,.....I have no detail but have been watching the posts.

I talked to Mark at DSE and Craig at AME.

The primary difference between both is the look.

DSE is an 'original" sub frame look
AME is a "fabbed" look....which is what I prefer.....

If I went DSE I probably would have also bought their 4 link rear.

As I went AME i am having my rear end custom built locally here in Australia.

As I want the car slammed I now have to run full tubs, whereas I had bought the DSE mini tub kit.....

My car will have a 4 link, 9" with Strange 3.55 Posi centre, 31 spline axles and full coil over suspension.....and it will be cheaper than a pre-fabbed one by the time I had it shipped.

But back on front ends you can't go wrong with either....just need to decide what look you are after.

[cluxford]

Latest update .... with pics :D


So per my update of last Fri today I dropped in to mock up ride height with a front guard attached.

Lets say we have a few interesting little challenges to overcome....but that's all part of the fun. I'm just a tad nervous now we are pushing the limits when it comes to rego.....

OK, first couple of photos, basic ride height.

Remember 17" rims, 245 x 45 on front and 325 x 50 on rear.

I love the rear, but front has some issues....love the low look but will need to roll the lip and tyre sits a log way to the edge....may need to go a 235 or even a 215....also seems to sit a long way forward in the wheel arch, we are not sure why that is yet but front end isn't bolted up, just hanging loose so hopefully it's just an alignment issue.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3091.jpg

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Man I love the look at the rear.....exactly what I was after.

I've now been talked into going a full rear clip. This will include custom rails and probably go bigger tubs as well....just in case I want to put much bigger rear wheels on later.....so that minitub job has now become a full blown rear end rear work.....

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3078.jpg

here is the reason I need bigger wheel tubs....at 100mm ground clearance I have no room left for wheel travel inside the tub.

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OK, up front, the 330mm discs look real good under the 17" rims, they fill em up nicely. Calipers not on yet but will be nice and snug...

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Now the HBC (huge Block Chev), all in all only 2 minor fitment issues
1. Sump hits power rack, will probably notch the pan to make it fit, assuming we can but looks OK
2. Dizzy hits firewall, but smoothing that out anyway so will push it back half an inch

But wow it fills the engine bay nicely

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That's it for today.....

Expecting significant progress during Feb so will be lots of updates

[SirGeo]

Looking good :)

I figured i couldn't get a proper fit/alighnemnt for the guard without the door on.. maybee try that before stressing that it sits too far forward.

[EAT-30T]

Looking good man..

[RSZ28]

Coming together excellently...(is that a real word...?) That mountain motor is simply awesome.

[rodent]

Looks good Chris :D might be time for a small cap dizzy though ;)

[tonner]

Looks great, :D
I look forward to more pic's

[TUFF68]

Cluxford, awesome build you've got going here and like everyone else on this forum i cant wait to see the finished product.

One question i want to ask though is whats your reason for swapping the 1050 Domintor for the dual 600 Edelbrock setup? Would'nt you make more power with the Dominator?

[cluxford]

So engine makes 816Hp as is....

Car will be street car mostly, and rarely raced...

dual quads with a hilborn scoop just looks awesome and I reckon I will only loose maybe 50-80Hp so still over 700Hp which will be more than ample....

So it's all about look.

Plus the Dominator sits real high out the hood and wouldn't get registered

[TUFF68]

Once you get that monster engine running, i recommend a good dyno tune as i found with my World crate engine that it ran very rich out of the crate. Had my car on the dyno yesterday to get a bit of a tune into it for the nostagia's this weekend and the first run was 435rwhp. After going down a heap of jet sizes to get the air/fuel ratio correct we finished with 466rwhp. A 31hp gain just by changing jets

Will you be using pump fuel or race fuel Cluxford? I'm pretty sure the difference in our fuel to the fuel they use in the US is the reason for them to run a lot richer on our fuel. Anyone else with a crate motor have a similar experiance?

[cluxford]

Pump gas for now, and yeah I heard the same thing that it will run rich and need re-jetting....so you have confirmed what I had heard
Rgds
Chris

[cluxford]

Latest update...car finally leaving Chassis shop.....

4 Link in
Diff housing in
Full floating hubs are being built so for short term it has a solid axle with no diff centre...but that's easy put in
Sub frame connectors are in...

Basically has all new frame rails now.

Looks awesome

In these photos the car sits 110mm off the ground...man I am loving that rear end and ride height this is exactly the look I was after

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On the front end Sean did an awesome job, how'd he overcome the motor clearance issues. OK firstly he raised the upper control arm by 1.5 inches which allowed better suspension travel and clearance, second he made a half inch "block" to sit between the motor block and the motor mount. Bolted it to the motor and then bolted the motor mounts a half inch forward. By doing this it has raised the engine half and inch and we now clear the rack and pinion and also moves it forward half inch so we now clear the firewall....and with all that it's all still perfectly flat...I have to say it was a master stroke.

Now my only minor concern is the valve covers look like they will go damn cloe to hitting the bonnet...so I may have some creative work to do there but not worried about that just yet.

Pics of clearance and UCAs

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Back off to the panel shop tomorrow.... :)

[tonner]

Looks awsome, it's really starting to take shape, keep up the work.

[67cammy]

Absolutely amazing. This is going to be one killer car. The workmanship looks A1. Cant wait to see it in paint. Still candy apple yellow?

[cluxford]

Oh yeah it will definately be candy apple yellow...much to my wife's displeasure

[RSZ28]

Looking good Mr Luxford. This will look, sound and go awesome on the street. and handle to boot. Excellent skills at the shop you are using!

[EAT-30T]

Looks great Chris! :cool:

Are you getting tin work done? Or is the body shop going to whip up some custom arrangement in the back there?

[cluxford]

Yep, will have custom tubs and new floor, new tank etc etc....

Challenge is making sure I can still run 2 bucket seats in the rear

[cluxford]

OK popped in this morning for some updates.

Right hand door that I bought was crap so it's been tossed....now need to resurrect the original door which will need reskinning.

Major work done is floors totally cut out and ready for tubs.

And drip rails shaved and welded up....

Basically piecing it together to check everything fits

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[J.J.]

crazy build up, that 800hp engine is gunna twist your chassis, are you going to do any extra chassis bracing?

[EAT-30T]

crazy build up, that 800hp engine is gunna twist your chassis, are you going to do any extra chassis bracing?


4 link rear clip and art morrison subframe tied into the rear clip.... I doub't there'll be any issues there....

[cluxford]

Bottom line is the tires will smoke way way before the chassis twists....that's the problem with over 800 ft/lbs of torque...hookn' up :)

[RSZ28]

Bottom line is the tires will smoke way way before the chassis twists....that's the problem with over 800 ft/lbs of torque...hookn' up :)

Heh heh heh :D Way to go....

[Adam68]

Your Camaro looks awsome. I was looking at the heidts or chis alson front clip. Did you get prices on these or were you set on the art morison? Do you want to sell the dse mini tubs and did you use the dse chassis connectors?

[cluxford]

DSE Minitubs are definately for sale...PM me

I didn't price up the Heidts or CA clips....looked at both, I believe they are a bit cheaper but never got firm prices

Yep I used the sub frame connectors, they are all welded in

[RSZ28]

Are you using a fuel tank in the regular position, i.e. a Rick's stainless, or a cell?

[cluxford]

Tank is a DSE custom, goes in standard position but is 70 Litres, I can take pics of it bolted up

[RSZ28]

Tank is a DSE custom, goes in standard position but is 70 Litres, I can take pics of it bolted up

Yes please. If you do get a chance to take some pics and post them, most appreciated. Particularly interested in how much lower than the stock tank it hangs.

They look nice in the DSE pics. Did you get it in on the boat via Auto Ezy?

Thanks.

[cluxford]

Tanks I had shipped by air by DSE...didn't cost that much, all up $1000 or thereabouts for the tank and shipping to my house (note I had other stuff shipped with it).

As I did custom rear frame rails and not standard, we had to trim about 5mm off the side of the tank so it will fit between the new rails....but the trim was so small you can hardly tell it's been trimmed.

Will get shots of it when I next go to see the car...

[cluxford]

Latest update....

Wheel tubs are now in, as is a lot of rear sheet metal....

Still lots to go but it's starting to take shape

Sorry for quality of photos, left camera at home so these are snapped with my phone and no flash

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[cluxford]

Official project name = Project Hellfire

Been looking for a good project name for a while....have decided on this one now

Based on ballsy motor
Candy yellow with ghost flames

[SirGeo]

lol.. I like the name...

[J.J.]

have you cranked over that big block of yours yet?

[cluxford]

Latest update...

lots of metal work done.

All sidemarkers removed, seams welded etc...little stuff.

But interior has made some major leaps forward.....I'll let the pics speak for themselves....

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Now the other thing I am doing is flush mounted windows...in prep for this the guys have welded additional metal into the window frames so there will be no gap between the glass and the small rubber sealer (like all new cars)....probably doesn't look impressive in the photo but it is....

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3286.jpg

[bricho]

Love the flow through to the parcel tray, going to look tough!!

[EAT-30T]

Can you say Custom??? :p

love it man!

[RSZ28]

That is A1 slick! :cool: Some beautiful metalwork there Mr Luxford!

Difficult to see the detail prep for the flush windows...do they sort of move the sides and top inward to create a smaller opening?

Looks great on the Velocity Camaro:

http://www.ridetech.com/more/rides/current-projects/1968-camaro/

[cluxford]

Yeah they actually welded a bead all the way round to make the hole smaller...that Airide Camaro looks great

[cluxford]

Body shop sent me some pics today...mocking up the dash and console....purely mock up at this stage and not the best shots...I am back there on on Fri so will get some updated pics...maybe tac welded in by then

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[67cammy]

Unreal! This is going to be one incredible car. Do you have a time as to when you might get it finished? I cant wait to see the finished product. I dont think Id have the patience to take something like that on. Id want to get in there and drive the thing. Its going to be a stunner. Excellent stuff Cluxford :)

[cluxford]

Patience...I'm learning the hard way....

So car bought Nov 2006....
arrived Feb 07
finally went to shop in Sep / Oct 07
stuffed around at chassis shop cause I said I wasn't in that much of a hurry...so nothing happened for 4 months.....finally in Feb thsi year he pulled his finger out
made huge progress between Feb and now.

Target was Summernats 09....

Now telling me it may be April 09 before it's done...but still hoping Xmas this year

[usautomotives]

Patience...I'm learning the hard way....

So car bought Nov 2006....
arrived Feb 07
finally went to shop in Sep / Oct 07
stuffed around at chassis shop cause I said I wasn't in that much of a hurry...so nothing happened for 4 months.....finally in Feb thsi year he pulled his finger out
made huge progress between Feb and now.

Target was Summernats 09....

Now telling me it may be April 09 before it's done...but still hoping Xmas this year

Awesome thread and will be an awesome car Chris. Let me know if there is anything I can do in the way of parts. Hell, I'm in a good mood I may just give some stuff away!:D

[cluxford]

Took some better snaps today....also they have made progress from cardboard mock up to starting to put in proper sheet metal

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[RSZ28]

That is some nice sheetmetal work you've got going there Mr Luxford!! :cool: Looks like once your shop got going, they really started to execute on the art work!!

One stunning car when you get it out the door early next year. :D

[EAT-30T]

Niiice!

I know about the waiting game believe me! its not fun :(

[cluxford]

Another quick update....

Started the tops of the doors this week...

Not much due to happen in next 2 weeks

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[PSIWOG]

That looks crazy ! Have you got any ideas, maybe pics or drawings what you want it to look like in the end ?

[TUFF68]

Great work on the interior Chris, will look awesome when it's finished.

How is that time frame looking for completion, is summernats 09 a real possibility? It's been 5-6 years since i've been to the summernats and i'm looking at going again so if your car is going to be there next year i will make sure i'm there as well as i have to see this animal in the flesh. Otherwise it's summernats 2010

[cluxford]

PSIWOG - no pics....just what is in my head.....

Tuff 68 - I think Summernats 09 is a stretch...I so want it to be ready but I just don't know I think we will be pushing it....but the guys are trying...we'll see how we go, I will update towards Sept on if we think we can make it....

[Nev68]

Great car!!
I wish I had the $$ to build something like you have taken on.
We have a '68 that is almost finshed and we are quite proud of the build so far but your car is looking like something extra special.

[camaro_1967rs]

how do they check engine capacity ?

The switched on RTA guys look at the casting marks on the block.

I upgraded mine from the 350 to 406 not only did they make me have the engine number stamp area X rayed but they analysed the casting mark on the SBC. Dont know big blocks but this mark tell you the year maufactured and displacement.

Like 69Coupe said, get it engineered and then they dont really look at this stuff, but then you have to make the engineer happy.

Technically you have to even engineer a 9" conversion as it was not an original GM item and welding has been done, found that out on mine.

[camaro_1967rs]

PSIWOG - .....

Tuff 68 - I think Summernats 09 is a stretch.......

Guys if we all pull our fingers out we could go to SUMMER NATS 2020 as a group? sorry 2009:D

[TUFF68]

The switched on RTA guys look at the casting marks on the block.

I upgraded mine from the 350 to 406 not only did they make me have the engine number stamp area X rayed but they analysed the casting mark on the SBC. Dont know big blocks but this mark tell you the year maufactured and displacement.
.

On my Merlin big block on the front of the block just below the head on the left hand side has the engine size (509) and the work order number (7332) stamped into the block. The right hand side has the engine number. Like you say, if you know where to look it is easy to tell the capacity of an engine.

Chris, Greg check your merlin's, they should have the capacity stamped in the same spot

[tonner]

Guys if we all pull our fingers out we could go to SUMMER NATS 2020 as a group? sorry 2009:D

I am going to try to have mine ready 2010, if I can stop changing my mind, so I would be in for then.

[tonner]

On my Merlin big block on the front of the block just below the head on the left hand side has the engine size (509) and the work order number (7332) stamped into the block. The right hand side has the engine number. Like you say, if you know where to look it is easy to tell the capacity of an engine.

Chris, Greg check your merlin's, they should have the capacity stamped in the same spot

I am going to sell my engine and purchase a 572 Procharger from the states hopefully it wont be impossible to get rego.

[cluxford]

Some interior metal work update....coming along nicely....

will NOT be ready by Summernats....bummer...but prefer to take longer and get it right

Wait till you guys see what I am doing for a dash pod.....very very cool....I'll keep this one a surprise.....

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First Door handle is in...other one will be dne next week....love it !!

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[Nev68]

Always better to do a good job than a rush job.
This is looking better ad better.
Will you paint the dash and console or go for upholstery?

[cluxford]

Interior will be fully painted...doors will be leather at the bottom, 4 leather bucket seats and carpet just in the foor wells only....

even the roof liner will be metal and painted....

[Adam68]

Interior will be fully painted...doors will be leather at the bottom, 4 leather bucket seats and carpet just in the foor wells only....

even the roof liner will be metal and painted....
Looking awsome Chris these guys are really quite good

[tonner]

Looking Goooooood Chris:cool:

[Dicko]

Very nice.

What are those door handles off ?

Was there much drama with the internal linkages ?

[cluxford]

Handles are off a VT Commodore...yeah the internal linkages are a huge amount of work, especially as I need to keep the existing door locks and strikers. We have to basically flip everything around as the originals go "down" and the Commodore handle pulls up...so there was a bit involved but the guys did an awesome job of working it out

[J.J.]

commodore door handles on a camaro, what were you thinking, whats wrong with the old school factory handles

[cluxford]

It's all about looks....I'd have no handles at all, but it's not legal.....so flush mounted is the way to go.

[J.J.]

keen to see how it looks finished

[Adam68]

Hi Chris,
How is your car going? Have they done much since your last lot of photos?. I believe my car goes on water on thursday next week

[cluxford]

Adam,

dash has had a bit more work and column is almost in, other door handle also done...not a huge amount done as metal guy was off ill.

Now on the real topic...can I post photos of your car up here...I am sure all the others on this board would love to see that animal you have purchased....

[Adam68]

Hi Chris,
That would be great just don't put the Boyd one up there in case his family gets funny about it. I was going to post the photos myself but I just have not had time to work it out so if you could that would be great. I can't wait for it to arrive.

[BMF1968]

What coloum did you go for? I'd be intrested to know what sort of turning circle you get with that front clip and if theres much clearance room for you headers with the big block in? Not 100% sold on the door handles but will wait to see how she looks painted. This is a killer ride youve got goin here. I'm lovin the updates, keep em' comin.

[cluxford]

Went for an IDIDIT std 68 replacement but much shinier...

Will have to wait for steering clearance but will let you know once done.

Header clearance will be an issue as we modified to to shock absorber mounting point (raised it 1.5 inches) to lower the car, thuse eating up more room in the header area.

[Nev68]

Went for an IDIDIT std 68 replacement but much shinier...

Will have to wait for steering clearance but will let you know once done.

Header clearance will be an issue as we modified to to shock absorber mounting point (raised it 1.5 inches) to lower the car, thuse eating up more room in the header area.

Can't wait to see some more update photos.
Do you have a target finish date?

Rgds,
Nev

[cluxford]

Not a huge amount of progress...column in, dash welded in and new door handle in...under cowl wiper motor installed and all working

Stopped now as waiting on steering wheel to arrive from US.

Flat roof about to get started (decided it would be a fiberglass one now)

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[muggz]

OMG that is very much porn!!

[EAT-30T]

Thought you were doin a RHD conversion???

[cluxford]

nope staying left hook

[BMF1968]

How you gonna go for rego with all the mods and big block, while keepin' it LHD? I know with mine i could mod it, but even with an engineers certificate it still had to go right hook. Don't know if this is just an S.A thing.

[Nev68]

[QUOTE=cluxford;6862]Not a huge amount of progress...column in, dash welded in and new door handle in...under cowl wiper motor installed and all working

Stopped now as waiting on steering wheel to arrive from US.

Flat roof about to get started (decided it would be a fiberglass one now)

Wow, looking good.
I know you probably don't want to give too much away, but will you go with a conventional shifter in the console or one of the electronic units or paddle shift?

Rgds,
Nev

[cluxford]

More than happy to share...it will be an electronic push button shifter (made by Retrotek and made famous by Boyd in Alumiatub).

It's a mechanica actuator driven by an electronic shifter....

It will sit in the centre console but actually be hidden under a hinged cover

[AUSCAMARO]

Hey Cluxford, can I ask what you do for a living?

I mean, I've got a pretty well paying job but I don't think there is anyway I could ever afford to do what your doing... :eek:

Am I jealous? HELL YEAH!!! :D

This thing is just like watching FOOSE modding a car but in slow mo.....

NICE

Mitch

[cluxford]

What do I do ?

Well I used to be the CEO of a Systems Integrator (IT stuff), but started my own consulting business 6 weeks ago (loved bing a CEO but was making the private shareholders super wealthy).

I haven't earned a penny for the past 6 weeks which has been interesting...

But my business is about to boom big time, as much as I hate seeing the world heading to a recession as that is really bad for many people, for me it means boom time as the consulting I do is all about doing more with less which businesses are screaming for right now.

Thanks for the kind words, the car has stalled in the past 6-7 weeks as the shop had other jobs they had to get done and we were waiting for the steering wheel to arrive. That arrived and was dropped off on Tue this week...so it's all go again and progress will ramp back up.

New Billet Grille getting purchased today !!!

[RSZ28]

Looking good Mr Luxford!!!!

Those guys in the shop you have the car in are real metalwork wizards!

They also seem to have added a lot of stiffening welds here and there. Should be solid as a rock when finished!

Have a good one!

Cheers!

[cluxford]

Progress has restarted this week !!!

Just finishing off interior, all little tidy up stuff now so it doesn't look like dramatic progress but lots is happening.

Thought you might like to see a pic of the steering wheel in position


http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0238.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0239.jpg


Sorry phone camera photos so orientation and quality not great

[cluxford]

Shiny stuff going on the motor.......

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0241.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0242.jpg

[AUSCAMARO]

OMG ....

I lurrrrrrrrrrrrv it!!

[Nev68]

Hi Chris
I want to say something smart about the seats in the photo but it's Friday afternoon and I'm running out of IQ.:rolleyes:
But seriously, that interior will be truly unique.

Rgds,
Nev

[Nev68]

Shiny stuff going on the motor.......

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0241.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0242.jpg

How many carbs on top!?

[cluxford]

Dual 600 CFM Edelbrock Performers.

May not be enough, it had a 1050 Dominator on it, and looking at those 600's on top it may get starved of air...

Might have to go dual 800's or just cut to the chase and go.......

blown n injected.....mmm 1000+ hp ;)

[Nev68]

Dual 600 CFM Edelbrock Performers.

May not be enough, it had a 1050 Dominator on it, and looking at those 600's on top it may get starved of air...

Might have to go dual 800's or just cut to the chase and go.......

blown n injected.....mmm 1000+ hp ;)

electronic injection?
It's got to be the go.
.....with some stacks (maybe)

[RSZ28]

Looking good! :) As always!

[WILD68]

got lots to do with a camaro hey..

[cluxford]

second time it's happened I'll just delete it and get him banned

[cluxford]

Been 2 months since the last update, progress is in full swing.

A lot of little work that is not that impressive in photos has been done, welding stuff in now that it is all tacked up, cutting holes for switches etc etc, little stuff that is critical but time consuming and not that visual.

Well a few other little things have happened:

1. Dash pod and sunken gauge cluster is now done and fully welded in (pics below). I'm really happy with this and the 2 Dakota Digitals look a treat tucked up in there
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3888.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3889.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3890.jpg

2. Bonnet scoop issues rectified and this is all sorted now, here it is in all it's glory. This is the exact look that I was after, I am absolutely stoked with this
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3891.jpg


3. Metal hold liner was been welded in prep for getting stiched into the roof of the car today, it will be welded and in place by Mon next week. It apparently looks awesome in the car. No pics of that yet.

Then it goes off to the engineer for rigidity testing...if it fails I am screwed as I am ot sure what else we could to to add any more metal welded into this thing unless we went a cage...it has sheet metal welded all over the inside of it. Oh and we are moving to solid (billet Ali metal) subframe bushes, just to tighten it up even more.

From here on in progress will be rapid.

[AUSCAMARO]

I think you'll be right on the rigidity side of things there Cluxford.... This car gunna weigh about three tonne by the time your finshed ;)

[RSZ28]

What a work of art!

All the best with the rigidity testing. Am sure you will be AOK with all the strengthening in there! :)

[Twisted67]

..........................(speechless!!)
This Is One Unbelievable Build!
Cant Wait To See The Finished Product
Congrats

[J.J.]

hurry up and finish this would you, i'm dying to see the finished master piece

[cluxford]

Debut will be Summernats 2010 followed 3 weeks later by Victorian Hot Rod Show. It will be trailered to both these events

From there it will be driven, no more trailers after that, we do what it was built for, driving !!!

[cluxford]

New metal roof liner is welded in, good damn it looks sweet. I am really happy with how this has come out the guys have done an amazing job with it.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3897.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3898.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3899.jpg

[Nev68]

New metal roof liner is welded in, good damn it looks sweet. I am really happy with how this has come out the guys have done an amazing job with it.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3897.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3898.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_3899.jpg

You seem to have a "metal" theme going there.
How about the door trims?

Nev

[454 NUTTR]

looking mad what kg are u looking at finsih

[cluxford]

No idea in terms of weight, but not that stressed, 800Hp in it we should still be OK, and it ain't a full on drag car.

Should be interesting though I reckon it would have to go close to 3 tonne

[cluxford]

You seem to have a "metal" theme going there.
How about the door trims?

Nev

Door trims still undecided.... I could be talked into metal

[RSZ28]

Just stunning Chris! You wont have any trouble meeting the torque test requirements me thinks!

:)

[Customcam]

3ooo tonne is over 6500 pounds Cluxford, u meen 3000 pounds?

[cluxford]

sorry yeah, oops...3000 tonne, that is a lot isn't it !!!!!

[Adam68]

Love your work Chris i can't wait to see your car in person after it is painted. I think that the roof will make it loud inside so i would go with a massive high end sterio which should also sound in sane off the hard surfaces

[cluxford]

Slow progress.

Went off for torsional rigidity test in early Mar and then I have been away for the past 2 weeks.

Here are the test results if anyone is interested. Bottom line is it passed without an issue.

Plan for the coming week(s) is to get cracking on:
full floating hubs installed
Rear discs installed
new tailshaft
headers fabricated
few minor body tweaks
then start prepping for paint

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/TRT.jpg

[Customcam]

What does that all conclude Cluxford? Say a guy had stock front and rear with made up subframe connectors would he of passed that test? reason i ask first time iv heard of this test, How much did it cost?
Thanks

[cluxford]

Not required for a standard car and ain't cheap. Cost me $1300 (with towing).

Reason I need it is my car is so heavily customised that I need a whole bunch of engineer reports to get it registered.

I have an aftermarket front frame, running solid body mounts on the front. Fully custom 4 link rear end with new frame rails, including narrowed rear end for the tubs. I also have welded in sub frame connectors. In fact it is basically a full frame car.

Reality is if you don't need it (which 99% of people don't) save the bucks and spend it on something else.

Posted it as thought some may be interested in it.

[TUFF68]

Chris, are you able to explain to us what it is they actually do to the car during the test ?

[cluxford]

Yeah, in a nutshell they try and "twist" the car. So they put it on this frame (was done in the guys 4 car garage). The frame allows each corner to be raised and lowered and he measures the degree of twist in the car.

That's the best laymans way of describing it.

Mine passed with flying colours. As you can see very very little / small degree of twist. Don't ask me to explain the technical chart as I am so far out of my depth on that.

Note we put cross bracing in the car as well, across the floor just in front of the front seat mounts, so not only does it have solid mounted new front, new rear, welded frame connectors, welded dash console and welded metal roof it also has side cross bracing at engineers request.

If this failed I would have been astounded

[AUSCAMARO]

Surely that can't be all that good for your car.. All the twisting of it that is...

Seems like a bit of an overkill when blind Freddy himself could see that there would be more structual integrity in this car than a stocker!!

[Nev68]

Surely that can't be all that good for your car.. All the twisting of it that is...

Seems like a bit of an overkill when blind Freddy himself could see that there would be more structual integrity in this car than a stocker!!

That test would probably replicate torque loads from engine/ mounts and cornering forces etc. I think.
I know a bloke with a big block HK Monaro who had to do similar.

Nev

[Customcam]

Cluxford thanks for that. It would be interested to see if all engineers will make you do this.
i think your rear end with the fabricated frame rails are much stronger than Oem no doubt not thats it sgoing to make a huge difference anyway.

[TUFF68]

Yeah, in a nutshell they try and "twist" the car. So they put it on this frame (was done in the guys 4 car garage). The frame allows each corner to be raised and lowered and he measures the degree of twist in the car.

That's the best laymans way of describing it.


Thanks Chris, that's pretty much what i was after to get a visual idea in my head as to what they actually do. Might be just me but i've never heard of such a test been done over here in Perth

[RSZ28]

Congrats on the pass Mr Luxford. :) That must be a major milestone!

[cluxford]

OK, got some more info.

In the pics you will see a number of 8226 in yellow. I'm told a "pass" is any number above 6000 Newton Metres. 8000+ is exceptional for a unibody car. Full chassis cars are typically in the 10,000 mark.

The graphs shows degree of twist from back of car to front of car. So you'll notice more twist as we get forward of the firewall (which you would expect on a unibody car). Again great news is on these cars they only have to pass it from the firewall backwards. Again my car passed with flying colours.

Engineer would like to see the panhard bar a little longer, but not mandatory. Also wants more rear shock travel given the ride height I am looking for. So we will go longer shocks and lighter springs (on the current mounts).

So now we get cracking again.

Headers, tailshaft, full floaters and 35 spline axles all being made up now.

Then prep for paint

[camaro_1967rs]

Good to hear that engineering is not as negative towards car people as the myths say. Good Luck Chris.

[67sscamaro]

any updates and pics?

[cluxford]

None, getting tailshaft, axles, headers and stuff like that done at the moment, so no major "visible" changes at this stage. Past few months has seen consistent, but barely noticable change. All getting ready for paint prepping...

[cluxford]

Update.

Starting to work on paint prep. Tailshaft, axles etc taking a bit longer than expected so started skim filler this week and speed filing. Didn't have camera so no pics.

Next week it will hit the rotisserie and underside will be a little smoothed out (not going crazy on underside as it will be a show car, but a driver). Will get pics while it is turned over.

Dash and console is looking sweet....

[Nev68]

Update.

Starting to work on paint prep. Tailshaft, axles etc taking a bit longer than expected so started skim filler this week and speed filing. Didn't have camera so no pics.

Next week it will hit the rotisserie and underside will be a little smoothed out (not going crazy on underside as it will be a show car, but a driver). Will get pics while it is turned over.

Dash and console is looking sweet....

C'mon Chris.
We've gotta have pics:)

Nev

[USA-69Z]

Chris , good to hear its still moving foward. Be nice once that paints laid on.




Gav

[cluxford]

Latest update. Long update quite a few pics below (+ for the first time video !!)

Starter arrived last week.

Powermaster Ultra Torque 250+ Ft/Lbs. Nice and shiny :D

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0545.jpg

Other than that the guys working on the Camaro have been flat out. Paint Prep has started.

Front glass is set up for flush fitting. Check out what we have done with the cowl and front guards.

Car will be in high fill next week and flipped over for underside treatment.

Oh and I am playing around with a new Flip Camcorder (hand held, 2 hours of 720p HD video, USB connected and point and click). I've taken 2 short 15 sec grabs. Need better hand stability, but you get the picture. More longer videos to follow.

Oh and the guys have in the shop right now:
1. Killer Nova. Bagged and 20's with sweet subframe, this thing looks amazing. Check it out at the very end of the 1st video you see it for 1 sec
2. 2 x 69 Camaro's. Blue mintubbed, flat black (needs work)
3. 57 Chev 4 door
4. GT500 Mustang
5. Viper, yep a real viper, you can see the bottom of it in one of the videos.
They have a bunch of other cars there, but these are the notable ones. The Nova is moving at the same pace as mine, but it will be a killer car when done, I really like it

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0564.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0565.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0566.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0567.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0568.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0569.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0570-1.jpg


Videos

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/th_Video24.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/?action=view&current=Video24.flv)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/th_Video25.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/?action=view&current=Video25.flv)

[AUSCAMARO]

The vids are a good idea Chris.

[Nev68]

Looking good Chris.
How do they finish the edge of the windscreen if you don't use the factory trims?
Is there some type of seal to give it a "finished' look?

Nev

[cluxford]

Just a small rubber seal like most new cars only problem is it is black which might be out of place may need to find a way to make it yellow

[Nev68]

Just a small rubber seal like most new cars only problem is it is black which might be out of place may need to find a way to make it yellow

Perhaps a mob like this could do a yellow extruded rubber (or similar material) seal
http://www.premier-rubber.com.au/page/extruded_products.html

Nev

[cluxford]

Nev,

Thanks for that I will definitely follow that up, looks like a goer

[cluxford]

Roof and side panels are all now in high fill.

Underside getting smoothed out ready for paint.

Had more photos but camera died today so lost a lot of what I took. Have some video I will post later.

Underside looks sweet.

Also filled the roof cavity (between the outer skin and the new metal hoodliner) with expanding foam yesterday. Still a bit tinny / echoy but way way better than last week.

Love what these guys are doing.

Paint is not far away...

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0589.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0592.jpg

[67cammy]

Im salibating thinking about this in colour. I can't wait. This is so cool Chris. Love it

[AUSCAMARO]

Are you going to fill in the gap from where the sub frame ends to the chassis connectors Chris?

Mitch

[cluxford]

Mitch no I have it so the sub frame can still be removed if need be the sfc are welded to floor and bolted to sub frame

[AUSCAMARO]

Mitch no I have it so the sub frame can still be removed if need be the sfc are welded to floor and bolted to sub frame

What about just capping the end, it seems o stand out a bit to me, especially with all of the smoothing and filling you have done elsewhere.

Mitch

[cluxford]

Paint prep rolling along nicely.

Some pics from today.

A couple of very short videos also of the underneath.

I am so happy with the dash, it looks amazing and exactly as I wanted it to

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0595.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0596.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0597.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0598.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0599.jpg


Videos

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/th_Video29.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/?action=view&current=Video29.flv)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/th_Video30.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/?action=view&current=Video30.flv)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/th_Video31.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/?action=view&current=Video31.flv)

[AUSCAMARO]

Too cool for school!!

[camaro_1967rs]

Comming along Chris.

I have got to visit Stylerod to setup my blower bonnet and match the paint.

[J.J.]

so when is this puppy getting painted?

[67cammy]

so when is this puppy getting painted?

Ditto

[cluxford]

It's probably still 2-3 months away, we still have some work to do.

Oh and I have selected the paint, and we will have 1 panel painted up to see what it looks like in a few week.

PPG Liquid Crystal Vibrance Series. Yellow Pearl. Looks amazing in sunlight.

3 coat pearl with metal flake and Harlequin (ie looks green tinge on some lights, red tinge in others).

Will paint a panel up shortly, if it isn't quite what I want it will then be HOK Candy

[tonner]

looks awsome Chris, can't wait to see the paint.

Greg

[RSZ28]

Work of art there Mr Luxford. A work of art! Rapidly approaching completion now! :cool:

[cluxford]

No major updates other than to say car is officially in primer today. All prepped and primed.

No pics it was under plastic when I got there.

paint will be a while though.

Headers, exhausts, electrical pre-wiring and trimmer pre-trim work to be done now. That is get all these guys working over drilling holes, etc etc etc for what they need to do before it goes to paint

Custom seats will most likely be the most work

[1968SS]

awsome project chris,will be worth the wait.

[Woodsy]

Can't wait to see some more progress shots mate. Keep up the good work! :D

[wkd69]

Excellent work. Can't wait to see the final product. Do you have an estimate of when it will be finished? Also have you ever seen the 69 that Kustom City on the gold coast are doing? I had a look at it ages ago but i don't know if it is finished.

[cluxford]

Bruce,

Yeah that 69 they are building is awesome, way way more customised than mine.

Estimate on completion is Jan - Mar next year (2010).

[RSZ28]

Your's is done in excellent taste though Chris! Still represents very much the original 68! :)

[southrod]

Lookin Good Chris, I like the dash,what gauges are you planning.
Shane.

[cluxford]

Shane, running a set of (2 only) Dakota Digitals

[wkd69]

Chris,
Just wondering if your engine is something like the attachment.

Cheers Bruce

[cluxford]

Chris,
Just wondering if your engine is something like the attachment.

Cheers Bruce

Not quite I will be running chrome polished AN connectors not blue and red :D

[AUSCAMARO]

Chris,
Just wondering if your engine is something like the attachment.

Cheers Bruce

Hehehe, that's funny and insane...

[cluxford]

Latest update. Car now in primer.

Exhaust place can't fit me in for 2 months :eek:

So off to trimmer next.....

Only thing I am not happy with, rear wheels. Had em so they would fill up the guards...well so I thought. With full floating hubs and diff in place, it's a fricken 11 inch rims and 325 tyres, and they sit 2 inches inside the outer lip of the guard.

Looks sh!t, makes it look like they are 185's.

So time to spec up a new set of Budnik Bladerunners. 13" with a 7 inch dish. Tubs are big enough, may just need to roll the lip on the outer guard but don't care about that.

Gotta get some meater looking rears, pissed that this has played out this way but better to do this now. Current rims and tyres will be burnout puppies.

Just another excuse to spend some cash on car bits....woo hoo !! (Wife will be happy)

Now gotta find a good drag radial to fit a 13 inch rim

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0969.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0970.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0971.jpg

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http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_0973.jpg

[USA-69Z]

Chris , could you just put some much larger tires on there ? Those rims look under tired to me ? Big Hoosiers or somethingmaybe?

[cluxford]

Yeah that's the problem.

Try finding choices in 17" rims.

15's no probs heaps of choices. Hoosiers don't do 17's.

Mickey T's do 15's and 18's and 20's (not 17's)

M&H - which is what is on there now - do 17's. They have 2 choices 325 (which is on there now) or 390.

The 390 is 3 inches wider than the current 325's.

I will need to move up from an 11 inch rim, to a 12 inch rim and it will look fat (better tyred as you say). I just don't know if I can squeeze 15 inches of rubber under there based on the current tubs (which will suck given all the time effort and $$$ into this so far).

Other options are different offset on the rims, or widen the length of the diff housing to push the tyres out a bit further.

Going back down to shop tomorrow. Would love to see if I can get the M&H 390 under there

[*rayman*]

Can you get dragway to widen your existing rim to take the 390 tyre?

[cluxford]

I always really wanted the Budnik's anyway...this is a good excuse ;)

[USA-69Z]

Fair enough , man thats a big tire (390) kool !:eek:

[AUSCAMARO]

That's a shame Chris... But as you say, you have always wanted those Budniks and these were only because you needed them in a hurry at the time.

I rekon you will be much happier with the BUD's...

[Rex]

Dude that is great car. love to do something like but 200k bit much for me at the moment. good luck bro love to see the end result.
Those 185 you have on the back would look sweet on my astra =p

[chevguy]

I guess it`s personal choice but I far prefer the look of the tyres sitting well under the car ala drag racing.The way the camaro rears slope inwards at the front of the rear wheels makes any tyres sitting out level with the lip,look a little bit 70-80`s resto to me :) Saying that if you can get the 390`s under it will scream tough,
Car is coming along well mate,going to be stunning.

[cluxford]

I guess it`s personal choice but I far prefer the look of the tyres sitting well under the car ala drag racing.The way the camaro rears slope inwards at the front of the rear wheels makes any tyres sitting out level with the lip,look a little bit 70-80`s resto to me :) Saying that if you can get the 390`s under it will scream tough,
Car is coming along well mate,going to be stunning.

Plenty of room with the tubs for 390's

Those 325's just look to small (can't believe I am saying that) under those fenders right now

[67cammy]

Chris this is going to look magic with 390's on there. I can't wait to see it with wheels and paint. This is getting exciting!

[Nev68]

Plenty of room with the tubs for 390's

Those 325's just look to small (can't believe I am saying that) under those fenders right now

I can't believe it, 390!!
Does engineering take the load increase of this monster wheel / tyre into consideration?

[EAT-30T]

why not widen the housing?

[cluxford]

New wheels ordered and will soon be delivered.

Rushforth Concept 1's

Damn these wheels are so cheap for what you get. Amazing value.

AUD$3570

17 x 7 (4" BS on front)
17 x 12 (5" BS on rear)

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/general%20photos/conceptI_large.jpg

[USA-69Z]

I like these rims heaps better than the dragways . Will suit the style your chasing with your car much much more.
good one!


Gav

[cluxford]

A bit an update

Headers are now on. They will be ceramic coated but on for now

Very very nice job, really happy 2.5" primaries...

Note steering goes through in between pipes 2 and 3

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_1147.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_1148.jpg

Master Cylinder being dropped off tomorrow

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_1149.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_1150.jpg


Not sure I ever popped up a picture of my billet door vents...here they are
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t37/cluxford/IMG_1151.jpg

[chevguy]

man that`s nice looking gear, looking forward to seeing yours complete nearly as much as mine :)

[Nev68]

A bit an update

Headers are now on. They will be ceramic coated but on for now

Very very nice job, really happy 2.5" primaries...

Note steering goes through in between pipes 2 and 3


Master Cylinder being dropped off tomorrow


Not sure I ever popped up a picture of my billet door vents...here they are


Are you getting the master cylinder ceramic coated? I haven't heard of that before.
Are the door vents from Marquez?

[cluxford]

No no, exhaust ceramic coated, but technically you can get anything coated, a lot of people are actually getting pistons and other engine internals coated.

I am seriously thinking about getting my bumpers ceramic coated

[RAW454]

Are you getting the master cylinder ceramic coated? I read "Master Cylinder being dropped off tomorrow" that way at first too Nev, but think Chris means dropped off to the where the car's being built ;)

Looking damn fine Chris! Damn fine... It great to see all the little bits & pieces in isolation when usually smacked with the enormity of the awesome build. And man, those wheels are the hottest I've ever seen for a car in that style. Getting closer bit by bit!! :)

[WILD68]

Looking damn fine Chris, like the wheels , they are same style as my old ones..

[69SS]

Chris, you have probably mentioned before, but what master cylinder is that? I thought you were running a wilwood? Headers look sweet by the way.

Cheers,

Lyndsay

[cluxford]

Nah decided against a wilwood. This is just some small company that makes billet stuff, bought it so long ago I can't even remember their name but will dig it out

[69SS]

Nah decided against a wilwood. This is just some small company that makes billet stuff, bought it so long ago I can't even remember their name but will dig it out

Thanks mate!

[cluxford]

390 x 40 x 17's ordered today.

Summit $282 each plus 10% discount using code.
International shipping to be added but expected to be around $150
Problem - back ordered till late Dec

So I call M&H directly.
Same tyres....
$282 each - no discount code (bummer)
Shipping by Fedex $200
Expected to arrive at my door next Tue
So that is $564 for tyres, plus $200 for shipping = US$764 or US$357 each per tyre

Bargain in my mind for a 390 wide tyre. I'd probably pay close to $600 for that in Australia

[1968SS]

[QUOTE=cluxford;26987]390 x 40 x 17's ordered today.

Summit $282 each plus 10% discount using code.
International shipping to be added but expected to be around $150
Problem - back ordered till late Dec

So I call M&H directly.
Same tyres....
$282 each - no discount code (bummer)
Shipping by Fedex $200
Expected to arrive at my door next Tue
So that is $564 for tyres, plus $200 for shipping = US$764 or US$357 each per tyre

Bargain in my mind for a 390 wide tyre. I'd probably pay close to $600 for that in Australia[/QUOTE

At that price buy 4 of them and use 2 for skids.;)

[71RS]

390 x 40 x 17's ordered today.

Summit $282 each plus 10% discount using code.
International shipping to be added but expected to be around $150
Problem - back ordered till late Dec

So I call M&H directly.
Same tyres....
$282 each - no discount code (bummer)
Shipping by Fedex $200
Expected to arrive at my door next Tue
So that is $564 for tyres, plus $200 for shipping = US$764 or US$357 each per tyre

Bargain in my mind for a 390 wide tyre. I'd probably pay close to $600 for that in Australia

$200 for shipping 2 tyres at Summit? I just got a quote from summit to send over a flexplate and torque convertor and the shipping quote was $240+ another $80 handling fee and lowest postage priority. WTF?

[cluxford]

Weight

my flexplate to ship from Summit was $150 with some other smaller goodies

tyres don't weigh that much

[TUFF68]

$200 for shipping 2 tyres at Summit? I just got a quote from summit to send over a flexplate and torque convertor and the shipping quote was $240+ another $80 handling fee and lowest postage priority. WTF?
earlier this week i got a shipping quote for US$388 for a pair of slicks from summit, slicks were only about US338 a pair...........again WTF :confused:

[71RS]

Ok. I re-read it. He got them from M&H with Fedex for $200. Still cant see how you got $150 for shipping from summit. Just did a quote through Summit for 2 BFG's and it was $330US shipping. Apologies for the hi-jack.

[Nev68]

Does getting tyres mean you are close to hitting the streets?
Are you going to make a debut at the upcoming SummerNats?

[cluxford]

Bob the $150 was an estimate as the tyres are on back order wouldn't confirm shipping till actual order I susected it would be more. I was also expecting a handling fee that they normally charge

Nev no won't make Summernats new tyres are for fitting up new wheels that are due in Oz in 2 weeks

looks like Mar or Apr completion

[18htan]

looks like Mar or Apr completion

Which is not that far away now!

How bloody exciting! Do we need to take a number to get ride in this monster?

Chris, can I take a number please! :D